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11-18-2018 , 08:56 PM
Live 2/5.. stacks ~600

-2 limps
-Hero makes it 35 in the SB with JJ
-Both limpers call

Flop(110): 973
-Hero bets 70
-Both call

Turn(320): A
-Hero checks
-MP bets 115 (First time playing with this guy. He's been playing super loose pre flop..sees most flops.. seen him limp cold call 3 bets twice already. So it's hard to put him on a range here)
-HJ folds
-Hero calls

River(550): 5
-Hero checks
-Villain bets 190
-Hero?

Tough spot for me. The price is good but I don't think I beat anything he bets for value here. And 190 seems like a pretty small bet for a bluff.

On the other hand, he doesn't have too many Aces here unless he floated the flop with Ace high. So there's only sets and Aces up.

What do you guys think? Cheers
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11-18-2018 , 10:07 PM
yuck.

68 gets there too. T8 misses.

that is super valuey sizing on the river.

Live tells? Call for meta game and curiosity? I don't know about this one.
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11-19-2018 , 07:42 PM
Bump.

No tells really. I agree, the bet did feel valuey.
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11-19-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sandhu31
Bump.

No tells really. I agree, the bet did feel valuey.
Pretty easy fold. I don't know how you can say he doesn't have many Ax OTT..try 25+ combos

V has a ton of value since he is so loose and has very few bluffs. Tons of 2p Ax alone makes this fold pretty easy...

Last edited by HomelessPizza; 11-19-2018 at 08:53 PM.
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11-19-2018 , 08:59 PM
He bets into two players on the turn? I probably fold here. Once I call the turn, I kick myself and then fold river. However, because I called turn, I desperately want to call river and pray he has a flush draw or similar -- anything worse than JJ.

Basically, though, I fold turn and as played fold river.
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11-19-2018 , 09:46 PM
Check fold turn. He can easily show up with AQ and AK (or worse Ax). Many bad players limp call these hands pre and then OTF they have two overs so they hang on to see a turn.

I don't see any reads that he likes to bluff or spazz after the flop. With reads we may be able to call turn. Otherwise players at this level aren't bluffing often enough with big bets on the turn and river.
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11-19-2018 , 09:48 PM
I have a pile of Ax in my turn check range there. I do think we need to be calling this river fairly often. But given I will have Ax her alot. JJ is easy fold. Likely folding JJ on turn alot
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11-19-2018 , 11:27 PM
If you're going to check/call the turn here, you're better off leading the turn..
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