1/2/3 300max game at M8 San Jose.

An overall loose passive table. People have addiction to limp. One guy limped AA twice and another guy called $11 raise IP with AA in a 4-way pot. Of coz all of them were cracked.

Anyway, V and I have been playing at this table for about 3 hrs. V is a well-mannered Indian guy in his mid 30s. I guess he is a SW/HW engineer from a company nearby. He is semi-competent, sometimes tricky, loves to chase, and has no problem to gamble but hasn't been out of line. His stack was up and down between 700+ to 150. Now he has around $260.

Hero is a mid-30s Asian. Table image is perfect at this point. All shown hands were value, very aggressive, never caught bluff....I over heard other players talking something like hero is a pro, blahblah.. Actually hero is a sw engineer taking one day off.

One reference hand earlier: Hero got 95o at BB. Limped around. Flop Q78r. checked around. Turn 6. Hero bet 15, V called 15. River blank. Hero bet 40, V 3bet to 90 and hero paid off T9o. LOL

Into this hand, UTG+2(short stack fish) limps, V limps at MP and CO and BTN all limp. Hero($750) was dealt red JJ at SB and raises to $30. UTG+2 and V call and others fold. I am 100% sure V doesnt have QQ/KK/AA because his pre sizes for them were 18/21,22,20/22. Yes, he got 5 of those in about 2 hrs. I put him on 22-TT/Axs pre.

(pot $94) flop: 3 5 7 rainbow

Hero bets 50. UTG+2 allin for around 45, V 3bets to 150. What should I do?

Shove. V may have flopped a set or straight but also may think 88, 99, or TT is good. There's 339 in the pot and it costs you 100 to call. His last 80 is going in at some point, so it's really 180 to win 419. You're getting 2.3:1 odds and could have AK as far as V knows. There are 9 combos of sets, 18 combos of 88 - TT, 4 combos of 64s, and several combinations of AX that might get frisky. There's a good chance you're behind but you have to win only 30% of the time to break even.

Thanks Case. Do you mean if we have no special reads on V, we always stack off in this kind situation?

My thinking process was: I show aggression pre and otf(i cbet maybe 70%), and my image is strong. V is a little passive and unlikely to play back at me with air. If he has 22/44/66/88/99/TT, his line should be call/call/call. Last time he re-raised me he got the nuts.
V can easily give me 99+/AK. He saw me not long ago call down one player's 3-barrel with AK and won a big pot. So his bet looks like value and he wants me to call.

Is my thinking OK?

Thanks!

doesnt sound like V would raise the flop with a small overpair or top pair.

Pretty gross spot.

If you think V would play 88-TT this way, then shove. If you don't think that V would play 88-TT like this, then you have to fold.

Your c-bet is ... well ... just a c-bet. It's only 50% of the pot and probably means nothing to the table. Could you have 'expected' fish to go all in here on his own so you could c/r V? V is essentially short stacked at this point also with only $230 behind a pot of $200.

So IMO V has you on 'not much' and has tried to isolate himself with fish. Are you ever 4-bet folding? Is he ever 3-bet folding? The stacks don't really even allow for this type of thinking.

I just call and make him put in his last $80 on the Turn so I get to see his cards (and he doesn't get to see mine if it works out that way).

I would much rather have QQ here, but this is probably 'just one of those hands' you don't get away from without some additional solid read. V is obviously all-in here and you have to look at a 60bb further investment. $180 into $430 is a pretty good price to get when you are probably better than 50% of his range here ... set/88-TT.

I always go back to how I'll feel if I lose the hand and what's my bankroll situation for the day. You aren't supposed to consider these 'outside' factors in this spot, but my live reads on both V and myself play a roll here. This is close 'live' but a pretty easy call by the math. GL

If Villain put in ~12% of his stack preflop and hit a set / ragged two pair / ragged straight, nice hand sir.

Our nice preflop play has setup an easy commitment postflop if we flop an overpair. We could overthink this hand and try to figure out why would Villain raise large over shorty's shove if he had such a strong hand (to blow us out of the pot?), or go back to the history hand where he slowplays his monsters early (so why wouldn't he here?), or wonder if our weakish looking 1/2 PSB looks like a cbet with air (which we're totally fine with it looking like since we're committed and want action from worse hands), but even all that is really overthinking it. Snap shove for me and I feel pretty fistpumpy about it.

Gpreflopmadepostflopbraindeadsimple,imoG

Break down ranges and run numbers.

Most often, people are caught up with villain showing up with specific hands and ignore other times when hero win these hands.

As one should expect, hero's odds of winning this hand is probably less than 50%, but it doesn't mean a call is not +EV.

Thanks jambre, BDF, answer20, GG, and RP. Your analyses and thinking are spot on. I think i learned how to handle it next time.

Results: hero ends up folding(time called). I saw both hands because shorty's allin. Turn A, river 6. Shorty shows 68s, V shows 44. Wth...