Live 2/5 NLHE. Effective stacks $500.

4 limpers, button makes it $30, SB folds, I call in BB with JJ A reraise is probably better here? 3 limpers call. $155 in pot.

Q33

Checked to button, who bets $80 into $155. I call.

Turn 8

I check, he checks.

River Q $315 in pot.

I check, he bets $125. Call or fold?


FWIW I really don't see him going for thin value here with 77, 99 or TT.


Does anybody bet the river as a merge/blocker bet?

You offer no reads so there's really no way to advise you. I can say however that the flop call was pretty bad. Can you figure out why?

Because it gets us into situations like this and there are 3 players left to act?

What's your pre-flop play here? Reads are very limited. Villain was not overly aggressive but not super-nitty either. ATs+, AJo or KQo and 77+ are hands he may be doing this with pre-flop.

Probably should have reraised pre and led the flop strong and folded to further action? Yes/no??

As butchered, what's your river play here?

Yeah, you really have to provide some reads on your opponents, or some info about how the table is playing. Anything is helpful. It affects how we play the hand and the feedback we give to you. What's right versus one V may be completely wrong for another V.

AP, and with zero other information, flop is a fold.

Wish I could provide some helpful info. The best I got is that the guy wasn't playing too crazy and I hadn't seen him get too far out of line. He was not very loose, but not too nitty either. He was a white male in his late twenties or early thirties. Definitely wasn't a pro though and was probably a little more passive than aggressive. In a Mississippi straddled pot, he chose to only limp 99 after two callers and only two players left to act, including the straddle. He then folded when the straddle, who had been very aggressive, made it $100. Villain in question had $500 that hand. In his shoes, against that player, I most likely would have shipped the 99s in that spot.

pre is fine as a default, reraising JJ OOP might be better but we'd need more reads, when you call pre and it goes 5 ways, you're mostly just setmining unless you flop an overpair.

flop is x/f, it's 5 way action, most hands are what they appear to be when 5 ways, so button quite likely to have Qx or better, and one of the other players still in the hand could also have Qx.

river, it appears now that button has Qx, checked back the turn because of flush that came in, and can now try to get a little more value from his boat. so, unless you think decent likelihood V is really tricky by sizing river like he wants a call, this is a fold.

Definitely 3-bet PF. You don't want to be playing JJ OOP in a 4 or 5 way pot. If you do though, then you're basically playing it as a set mine and should c/f this flop. You're OOP in a 5-way pot, so the PFR shouldn't be c-betting that light, and even if he is, one of the limpers can easily have a Q.

As played, I'm folding river given that you don't think he would value bet thin with a hand like TT or 99.

Given no descriptions....and assuming you haven't been spazzing.

3 bet pre but since you didn't, I think the turn is where you butchered the hand (unless he is a calling station). Against a somewhat thinking player...I bet/fold $160 to represent the flush on turn. All non Q or 3 rivers, shoving stack.

As played, I do believe ur beat here with Q or river and very marginal spot. Folding river.

Also, don't like the flop call 5 ways OOP...without a 3 bet pre, you're setmining and should let it go. Was just giving a different line to think of against the right opponent.

Pre: This is definitely a 3 bet spot imo. Fold to 4 bet obviously.

flop: You are correct that it is a fold mostly because there are players behind you and you. You might not even be able to see the turn and when you do you'll have no idea how to play it.

turn: I'm OK taking a freebee.

river: shouldn't have been here.