This is a bizarre thread. I see GG is once again heroically trying to remove playing poker from the game of poker.
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
We can get called by worse
Like what? It's hard for him to even have a worse one pair hand here - what limp/calls pre for $75 that makes one pair on this board? I also don't think he's calling with any one pair hand we beat except maybe TT, even that is pretty dubious. If he has a draw (and there actually aren't all that many combos of draws) then he's going to be like 40% against us with them.
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and if he checks behind his draws then with both of these assumptions it’s not “xf ainec”
Checking behind his draws is fantastic for x/f because getting bluffed out by big draws is a major downside of x/f.
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
When there are zero good turns for your hand, push your equity.
No. One of the big lessons from the advent of poker AI is actually the exact opposite - that you don't try to "protect your hand" on dangerous boards. Here is
Dan "jungleman" Cates explaining this (you only have to watch like a minute of video).
This is a little complicated, because it can be right to push your hand harder on wet boards, but you do it for value, value is always the consideration. So on a wet board, if you think your opponent has a worse made hand, you want to bet stronger, because a lot of runouts could kill your action. You don't bet stronger because you think he has a lot of draws. Another caveat is that when the pot gets large compared to stacks, like OTT here, hand protection can become more of an issue. If I was getting it in OTT here, I'd certainly be betting, but I want to fold.