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J9s with a world of outs... J9s with a world of outs...

07-08-2017 , 12:15 PM
Prehand Descriptions Game just started at a new 1/2 table.

Villain 1: OWG tight and slightly aggressive, but prob ABC
Villain 2: 20's black guy smells like weed, but we have seen him show value so far even though he is crafting a loose image

Hero: Late 20’s White guy. Hero's image is a solid TAG prefers bluffing with equity, but capable of air bluffs if aggressive as PFR

History with villains: None new table maybe one orbit in, villains in hand do not know hero's image just yet

$1/2 NL (9 handed)
UTG ($200)
EP ($225) Villain 1
EP+1($300)
MP ($180)
MP+1 ($300)
CO ($300)
Button ($200) Hero
SB ($180) Villain 2
BB ($225)

Hero is dealt J9
Action: Villain 1 limps folds to hero on BTN who raises to 12, V2 in SB calls, and Villain 1 completes

Hero’s reasoning: trying to isolate V1 weak pairs that limp here often or steal on flop we both whiff.

Flop ($38) JQT
Action: V2 bets $21, V1 thinks a moment and calls $21


Then **** got weird and dealer burns and turn the T before hero can act and still has his cards. Floor comes over and tells dealer to take the T back and hero is to pretend he never saw it.

Hero decides to call 21 with UE straight draw and second pair.

Turn ($96 after rake) Floor instructs dealer to shuffle the remaining cards and the new turn is 2

Action: V2 jams for 145, V1 folds.

Hero? Anyone gambling in this spot?

Last edited by V3ttz3ao; 07-08-2017 at 12:25 PM.
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07-08-2017 , 12:34 PM
I don't think you have the best hand very often, and when you're behind your 2pr outs are not good. You need about 40% equity and you needed clean outs all around to have that much.


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07-08-2017 , 01:44 PM
You don't have a world of outs. In fact, some of your outs are dirty and you could have been drawing dead. You're not even drawing to the nuts. Easy fold on the turn and frankly, it wouldn't have been a bad fold on the flop.
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07-08-2017 , 02:26 PM
Yes I think this is both a flop and turn fold.

On the flop it your hand feels so much stronger than it is. But really your K outs are likely dead against one of the players, the 9 is probably a loser card for you, so you are really just looking for your (and still crushed K9/AK)

On the turn I think pot odds make it a fold. The shove looks super like a 2 pair kind of hand trying to protect their equity, it's a good bet.
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07-08-2017 , 04:07 PM
He had the low straight with 89... I folded because the sizing wasn't giving me proper odds... I thought against two pair here it might be close since any J, K, spade, or 8 would win or chop...

But alas the fold was right. I was more confirming
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