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10-01-2013 , 10:28 AM
By weak bets I mean post-flop (flop, turn or river) bets that are less than 1/2 pot. $15 into $60 pot, $25 in to $70 pot, $40 into $110 and so on.

Do they indicate weakness or strength at $1/$2 live? And how can we tell? What should be our strategy when facing a weak bet? What about "same bet" on 2 consecutive streets?

I developed a theory that a weak bet from loose aggressive theory is more likely to be weakness and a weak bet from a tight player is more likely to be strength but I found that not to be reliably true.
10-01-2013 , 10:40 AM
Be careful, a lot of weak players at 1/2 don't size their bets in terms of the pot size. They just base the absolute size of the bet in terms of their hand strength or how much they want to bluff...
10-01-2013 , 03:04 PM
Some of these people are well aware of the fact that their bet will look weak and they're trying to bait you into raising them.

Some of these people don't know this and are "betting for information", i.e. they think you'll only raise with a hand that beats them.

It is completely opponent dependent in my experience. But my experience tends to be the opposite of yours. When a loose-aggressive player puts a weak-looking bet in I have found that it frequently means a strong hand. A lot of loose-aggressives think that the point of betting is to make you fold, so when they are betting an amount that is too small for you to fold to, it is strength--sometimes extreme strength.
10-01-2013 , 03:13 PM
I feel this is very opponent dependent.
10-01-2013 , 04:14 PM
"same bet" in my experience usually means the absolute value of the hand did not change. i.e. an overpair of queens is still an overpair of queens.

the weak bet is, as others said, opponent and situation dependent. Some are smart enough to realize that the only way to get action on a dry board is to induce raises.
10-01-2013 , 11:53 PM
Depends a lot as mentioned.
10-02-2013 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
Some of these people are well aware of the fact that their bet will look weak and they're trying to bait you into raising them.
A LOT of these! And they've tricked me more than I would like. them: "$10 into $40", me = "wtf? bet like a man mfer! make it $40!", them "$100 on top!", me: "o f not again, let's hollywood at least for 5 secs like I had anything, disgust fold!!@@#^&&" *goes to restroom to vomit*

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It is completely opponent dependent in my experience. But my experience tends to be the opposite of yours. When a loose-aggressive player puts a weak-looking bet in I have found that it frequently means a strong hand. A lot of loose-aggressives think that the point of betting is to make you fold, so when they are betting an amount that is too small for you to fold to, it is strength--sometimes extreme strength.
Yep, that's why I said my theory seems to be badly flawed.

So - what do we do when faced with a weak bet? If this is so opponent-dependent then basically without a very solid read - we have no idea what's going and should be just playing our cards?
10-02-2013 , 12:57 PM
Weak bets usually mean weak hands, but that doesn't mean that they're folding their weak hand if you raise. I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "you've got me beat... I call."

Make sure that your timid bettor is not also as sticky the sheets after a game of honey-drizzle before you try to raise them off a weak hand.
10-02-2013 , 01:50 PM
This in my opinion can be one of the most frustrating situations to deal with in poker. In live 1/2, I have seen players using the "weak" bet or the "same bet" both snap fold to any raise, and I have seen this done with players showing down strong hands. It is absolutely villain dependent, and how you feel about the situation.

To speak generally, I have seen many older weak players use the "same amount bet" on every street when they are holding top pair. I have also seen them bet $15 into a $150 pot, get raised to $45, and insta muck. There really cant be an across the board rule here, we gota feel out the situation, and proceed from there.
10-02-2013 , 02:33 PM
Ya this is funny because there is a terrible regular at the card room I play at most. His value bets and bluffs are basically 10$-15$ regardless of pot size. What you can do to counter this is act very simple- play your draws basicay straight forward with the added Ability of repping flush draws once they complete. That would be he only bluffs I would recomend. As far as getting value from strong made hands just make your bets seem bluffy and act very quickly. Again his is all villain dependent as you will see all types of weird bets at 1/2
10-02-2013 , 03:05 PM
My default unless I get a good read otherwise is to play it almost the same as if he checked. If I have a decent hand that I'd like to check, I call; if I have total air and don't want to continue, I fold; if I would have bet had he checked, I raise a similar (maybe slightly bigger) amount as I would have bet.
10-02-2013 , 07:08 PM
This is really too broad an area to discuss in a thread. A weak bet into a wet board against 1 villain means something completely different than a weak bet on a dry board with 5 villains.

Come up with a specific situation you faced and we'll analyze it.

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