This is a friends hand from tonight's session, we couldn't decide what's the best way to play it.

The game is 1/2, on the looser and aggressive side. Limping preflop or betting too small is usually answered with a raise. (not as aggressive as yesterday, for those who followed my threads).

Hero has a stack of 550 limp JJ UTG. (At this game he's very likely to get raised by worse).
MP raises to 17, CO calls (stack of 500~), and the BTN raises to 40 (1000~).
CO is a thinking player. Pretty tight, never seen bluffing or getting out of line.
BTN is the loosest player at the table, classic OMC that plays lots of hands.
Hero calls, MP folds, CO calls.

3way to a flop of 646 w/2 spades. Pot: 140.
Hero leads for 55, CO calls and BTN folds.

Pot: 250. Turn is 9 of Spade.
Hero bets 75, CO calls.

Pot: 400. River offsuit Ace.
Hero checks, CO bets 115. Hero shoves for remaining 380.

Thoughts on how this was played?

Really weird line by your friend and I don’t really follow his logic.
1st off, raise pre. If JJ isn’t in your UTG raising range, then your UTG raising range is stupid thin. If you’re going to “get raised by worse” that’s even more reason to raise.

I don’t mind the flop bet, but a flop bet or check both work better after raising pre.

The turn is almost definitely a check. You’re putting yourself in a bad spot by beting turn here.

River is also played very weird. Why check-raise jam when so many hands beat you? The ace is way better for the opponent than hero here, and he was probably already beat by flush anyway. Calling down I can understand, but shoving is ridiculous. If it worked it was total fluke blind luck.

AP check turn and just call down turn/river if you think you’re good.
This hand is a total mess imo.

Just for the record, the classic Old Man Coffee plays very few hands. He mostly sips his coffee. What you have here seems to be Old Man Spewy.

I don't mind shooting fore the limp/reraise in this game. I'd follow-through, even though it got cold 3-bet and 4-bet to iso OMS.

Betting 55 into 140 is weird and bad, especially if OMS will usually c-bet.

Turn bet is even worse sizing. Either check or bet something real.

And now we are turning our hand into a bluff OTR? I think your friend has a bad case of FPS.

Thanks for fixing my rambling mess Garick. This hand tilted my brain.

OMW is correct, my bad.

Lmao I didn't know this term FPS. Perfect way to describe my friend.
While I do agree with the limp-reraise line in this game, and probably should size up on the flop.

What I said when we went over the hand, is that after the turn you should go check-call mode, and I might even fold a river bet. River there's no reason reraising since any better hand is likely calling, and any worse hand is likely folding.
Do you agree?
Gonna link this thread to my friend when the discussion has run its course.

Take 3 to the face after limping and then weak lead donk for <1/2 PSB. Your friend should just put a sign on his forehead that says he has a weak overpair! The whole hand is played badly. If plan was to limp 3 bet, with read on the button and buttons weak 3 bet, just 4 bet the JJ!

Won't comment on the turn or river, but I don't think they are well played either.

I think JJ could be the nut worst hand to limp.

As played the shove seems completely bonkers.

If I were your friend I would have opened big, but I'm OK with the idea of going for a limp/re-raise given how you have described the game.

I already mentioned how I would play pre as played and flop as played (4-bet pre and check/raise flop)

If I had somehow taken all of your friend's actions and got to the turn with the flush completing... I don't know, because I would never, ever, make a weak donk with a vulnerable overpair on a paired/flush-draw board. I probably would check and fold to most bets. Vs range should have a lot of FDs in it, and he should think that ours does (that weak sizing looks like it might be a draw trying to set a price), so he should be hesitant to bluff here. If the bet was small enough, I might call to FH-mine.

If I had made it to the river as your friend had... I would check/fold every time. All that he represents here is a weirdly played As, and V likely has the card he's trying to represent. V should never be folding here, except total air that we would have beat if we'd just called (which I do not recommend), with your friend's c/r being only 265 more in a pot that will total 1160 if he calls. V only needs to be good 22.8% of the time to call.