$2/5

Hero ($1400) - competent more TAG than LAG , but isn't afraid to get in big pots.

V1 ($1950)- LAG leaning to agro . Likes to take shots at pots with bottom pair when he's first to act. Involved in lots of pots.

V2 ($1625) - tightish TAG. Usually has the goods when the pot gets big.

V1 raises pre to $25 from UTG+1 .V2 3b to $75 in HJ. Hero flats OTB with Ad6d. V1 flats .

Flop( $226 after rake) 4d 5c 8d

V1 leads with $200. V2 thinks for a minute & raises to $450.

I know V1 will do this with a lot of combinations. He'll do it with any A4s, A5s, A8s , 44 , 55, 88 & any overpair & I'm fairly certain V2 has an overpair of JJ+. I'm getting almost 3-1 with what I think are 12 clean outs ( any d or 7) & 3 less likely outs (A). I understand that I need just slightly better than 2-1 to make the call & pot odds say call .
What do you do & more importantly , why ? What do you do if the turn bricks?

Sorry guys , I posted my hand wrong before edit. I know the Ad6d flat wasn't the smartest play , but that horse already left the stable.

Well if you are getting direct pot odds that's great just call, the issue here is you aren't closing the action. I think I still just call because we have te benefit of position, V2 will likely consider you a threat and he may slow down and check to you on the turn.
Although your range would look a lot like flush draws or maybe a set being tricky. It depends on how you're perceived.

I think there is merit to raising but that would be assuming V2 is capable of folding. If V 1 can be on lesser draws raising is bad. So I will assume raising is out unless I hear good argument otherwise.

So lets flat and see what happens on the turn. If its a blank and it's checked to you I think checking is fine as I play a little more straight up in 3 bet pots. As for the plan if we are bet into it really depends on the amount and who's left in the hand etc. ill stove those ranges VS your hand later.

Since you've already acknowledged a possible preflop mistake, I'll ignore that.

As played, you've basically flopped as hard as you can without actually making a hand. Given your range of V1 and V2, you never want to just call a third-a fourth of your stack here. If you want to continue in the hand (you always have the option of folding if you don't want to gamble your stack), I like a jam.

A cold jam here always looks super strong, so it will put V2's probable overpair to a decision for most of his stack. You also want to knock out V1 in case he shares any outs (for example has A8 or 86). If you just call, you may invite him to call behind, and an Ace may not be a clean out anymore.

You want to give both of them a chance to fold, but if you're called by an overpair, you're in good shape against all but AA, and even then, you're not crushed. And if one of them wakes up with 2pair+, you're still not in bad shape.

Damn , it's too early. I really need about 3- 3.5/1 when we don't consider implied odds.

I agree with shoving. I think Action Mike's analysis is spot-on on all points.

Consider this too: what possible turns can come that are good for you? Either a brick where we have to give up to other bets because our equity is tanked or our hand is made -- and obvious -- and no one wants to put any more money in the pot.

If your ranges are right, you are ahead at the moment and should shove. There's no other move. Anyone who folds is folding equity to you.

Just stoves it vs the correct hand A6d against V1 range 44-55-66-77-88 A8s A5s A4s. And KQd KJd. And V 2 with JJ+ and we are a 46%. I think this comes back to maybe raising the flop, we want to get as much money in the pot as possible when we are a favorite. This would require us committing 200+ bb. But for a hand like A6d you don't flop much better and if you factor in fold equity your a monster outs favorite.

I think I tank jam the flop... And ride the variance but I'm pretty ok seeing two folds.

agree with shove. you have plenty of fold equity.

Never ever flatting here. You are 33% in a worst case scenario vs. 88 and AA. If you have V1s range correct, he's folding a vast majority of the time. Even if V1 folds and V2 stacks off with AA your 46% against V2 alone. If V2 has KK and wants to stack off, you are a favorite. Add your fold equity and jam and be happy about it. Or fold and learn your lesson for calling a 3! with a weak suited ace.

Somewhere years ago , I read a quick way to figure equity . Outs x 4 with 2 cards to come. Outs x 2 with one card to come. If you have a decent read on your opponent it will usually get you within a couple of percentage points.

Meh preflop, but you acknowledged it already. Shove now. Great spot to put a lot of pressure on both opponents with a hand that is pretty much never crushed.

Stating the obvious. Flatting a 3bet pre with A6 is just horrendous. As played I am just folding, your A prolly isnt any good at this point, likely against a set or 2pair.

Folding this flop seems criminal. Vs aren't ever going to have 2 pair on this board and the only V that is likely to have a set is V 1. If we are up against a set we have 12 outs to take the lead and it is hard to flop a set. So the biggest error would be the call pre unless you folded this flop which would be a much bigger error IMO.

My thinker did kick in after tanking for about 30 seconds & I shoved. V1 folded what he later claimed was TT . V2 tanked & folded QQ face up. Later he said "didn't want to have to fade diamonds , an A or losing to a set for 3/4 of his chips" . He had a pretty good read on me , but was too risk averse to get it in with one pair.
If I had flatted (unlikely) , the pot would have been $1126 ( assuming V1 folds) with $875 behind . Bad situation if the turn bricks .