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Old 01-29-2016, 07:13 PM   #1
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Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table?

Looking through a lot of the posts, I've seen reference to MAWG, MABG, and Asian. I haven't seen anyone mention Indians or Pakistanis, yet that is the majority of players at my local B&Ms (along with MAWG and OldWG).

To me, they seem to be more TAG than LAG, but my sample size is not limited.

Are they generally lumped into the "asian" classification when people are posting?
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:31 PM   #2
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Last time I checked India and Pakistan were in Asia, and yeah of course you can classify 3 plus billion people born in different countries, socio economic class and demographic into one play style in poker.
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:40 PM   #3
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Finally someone said what we've all been thinking.
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:46 PM   #4
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Finally someone said what we've all been thinking.

I just laughed out loud in a public place.

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Old 01-29-2016, 07:59 PM   #5
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Finally someone said what we've all been thinking.
Lol! Can't wait to hear the debate. This one's been bubbling beneath the surface for a while

I find racial classifications pretty useless at the table. Age and gender are much more reliable.
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:05 PM   #6
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

In reading years of sloppy HHs where the Hero couldn't remember a thing about a player other than their skin color, people use the term "Asian" for those from the Far East. They'll say "Indian" or "Middle Eastern" for people with different skin colors.

That said, it is meaningless in terms of a read that you should have by the first orbit of play.
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:51 PM   #7
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

So many ways this conversation could go wrong but yeah I haven't noticed the same stereotypical Asian 'any flush draw will do, lets GAMBOOL!' tendencies from the small sample size of Indian/Pakistani players.
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:01 PM   #8
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Thread had potential. Then along comes uncle Venice.... Making sense and stuff
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:04 PM   #9
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Thread had potential. Then along comes uncle Venice.... Making sense and stuff
yeah, quite the buzz kill...
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:10 PM   #10
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

People from Pakistan love being grouped with people from India too. Such friendly countries
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:16 PM   #11
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People from Pakistan love being grouped with people from India too. Such friendly countries

Lol Us internationalawarenessaments
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:02 PM   #12
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

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......stereotypical Asian 'any flush draw will do, lets GAMBOOL!'....
Given this descriptive insight, I am thinking that there aren't many 'Asians' posting hand histories and posting around here?
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:12 PM   #13
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

If your sample size is "not limited" I suppose you should tell us...
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:50 PM   #14
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Given this descriptive insight, I am thinking that there aren't many 'Asians' posting hand histories and posting around here?
I said it's the stereotype, not that Asians (or 'Asians' if you prefer) inevitably conform to it, any more than white people always drink too much while loudly talking atrocious poker strategy.

There's a reason poker stereotypes occur though and that's why race and sex get mentioned in hand histories on this forum. My personal observation is that a lot of Asians are more 'gambly' than the norm, especially regarding flush draws. Likewise, as far as I can tell, the average female player is basically terrible at poker. I'm aware that my sample pool is confined to bottom feeding stakes and a single casino, so YMMV.

I guess in an ideal world all poker players are not only born equal but play equally across all possible demographics. Sadly real life and PC ideals don't always meet. Poker is a pursuit that rewards seeing what is, rather than what one would like to see, so stereotypes will occur...and usefully so.
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:35 AM   #15
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Obviously (I hope), skin color/race has nothing to do with how people play poker. Culture, on the other hand, has a HUGE impact on how people play poker. Race sometimes gives us hints about culture, however (especially in America) it is not a 1:1 correlation.

Though I don't know as much about the cultures of the Indian sub-continent, my limited experience is that they are not as rooted in gambling as many of East Asian cultures are. Nor is it as "macho-aggro" as many Mediterranean cultures are. I wouldn't really have a default read that I'd start with when encountering Indian/Pakistani/Bangledeshi players. Afghans tend towards aggressive, in my limited experience, though not so much/so loosely as Persians.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:10 AM   #16
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

I'm guessing you guys dont play in the bay area... I will leave it at that
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:22 AM   #17
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Limon said somfun about gypsies a couple years ago but efff stereotypes.
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:44 AM   #18
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My favorite was Limon talking about LA "pretty boys" with deep pockets being so good looking that their lives require no mental acuity (I.e. they are actors) and are terrible at poker, lulz....
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:22 PM   #19
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Most are ultra megalodonks IME (like megalodon shark, but for donks... get it? yeah...).

Big. Time. Megalodonks.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:33 PM   #20
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

I wouldnt shy away from a table of indian players. Even if they were playing teen patti. Randi! Madar chod!!!!!
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:28 PM   #21
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

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I wouldnt shy away from a table of indian players. Even if they were playing teen patti. Randi! Madar chod!!!!!
Lol I agree. Indians are generally great for the game. That is, second only to Persians. Like you've said, if a player refers to you as "my good friend", set up a camp at that table!
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:46 PM   #22
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

Wow, my experience has been that Indians are usually TAG and more prone to bluffing.
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:28 PM   #23
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Re: Are Indians/Pakistanis classified the same as Asians in terms of playing style at the table

In honor of this thread I wrote a limerick:

Yellow black brown and white
Steryotypes might be right.
Euros will float
When I have a boat
And double me up every night

And a haiku:

Everyone will bluff
Except for old man coffee
He limps an ace king

And a cinquain:

Dre Beats
Overconfident, wannabe
Bitching, bluffing, station
Will only talk strategy
Sunglasses
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In honor of this thread I wrote a limerick:

Yellow black brown and white
Steryotypes might be right.
Euros will float
When I have a boat
And double me up every night

And a haiku:

Everyone will bluff
Except for old man coffee
He limps an ace king

And a cinquain:

Dre Beats
Overconfident, wannabe
Bitching, bluffing, station
Will only talk strategy
Sunglasses
BRAVO!!!!
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:28 PM   #25
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Wow, my experience has been that Indians are usually TAG and more prone to bluffing.
That's a bad thing?
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