V1 limps for 3 in the low jack $150
V2 limps in high jack $200
Hero completes SB QJo $300
BB checks

Pot is 12
Flop : K 10 3 rainbow with 1 heart

Hero leads for 5 (as I have done in this session with top pair marginal ki kicker)
BB folds
V1 calls
V2 calls

Turn Ah

Hero checks
V1 bets 16
V2 calls

Pot is 59

Hero?

Thoughts on raise size? How about just betting big on the turn instead of check raising? Would that be a better line if I were to lead the flop? Thoughts on check raising flop? V1 is snug V2 has shown tendency to call down with any 2 pairs but one hand he folded trips with top kicker to an over bet shove

I'm cool with preflop.

I'm fine with the small semi-bluff donk. It gives us an opportunity to set a good price and sometimes takes the pot down.

I think I mostly bet the turn myself and just PSB it. I'm hoping someone was sandbagging a good hand on the flop or improves to two pair on the turn. Also way too many action killing cards on the river if it checks thru.

As played, I like offering poor 2:1 odds for draws, so I think that would make a bet of $90, which sets up a trivial play for stacks on the river.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I'd raise to 56 with the intention of getting it in on any non heart river. Could be convinced to go bigger but given shallow stacks I think we can still have a reasonable shove on river.

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given the lack of a preflop raise, isn't it more likely hero will induce a bluff by checking (and also rep a scared king) then get a call by betting? i kinda like checking turn here, especially if hero has a scared nitty image. i think if hero bets turn the mostly likely scenario is both villains instafold.

im also not sure what draws (backdoor hearts?) we are trying to price out by raising to $90. i think i would just make a small turn raise thats likely to be called by a worse hand.

As I say, I wouldn't be in the check/raise camp, but since we're here...

A check/raise is an extremely strong looking move and you're mostly only going to get called by good hands or good draws; everything mediocre is going to fold. So at this point, simply target the hands that are willing to continue, and therefore size big.

GimoG

what good hands do villians have here in a limped pot?

People could have anything anywhere, so who knows.

The point is that there isn't any difference in what calls a strong looking check/raise to $60 vs $90; weak hands are folding, good hands / good draws are continuing.

GimoG

I think I just fold this pre. QJo in the nut worst position postflop is not great, even if it is only another 2 bucks. I think this is a loser long term, so I'd make a disciplined fold. If you're going to play it though, be aggressive and open it for a decent raise, like 18 or 20. You're trying to narrow the field now and stay aggressive post. With this strategy, your actual cards are just a back-up - what was your image? You don't mention it.

OTF AP - I think you can make this a bit bigger to start building a pot. Most hands that call 5 will call 10 (at these stakes) and if you hit, you can start getting in more money quicker. I think most 10s probably peel another street and you're in decent shape against those hands. Plus, if the turn bricks, I think you can probably check and get a check back for a free river a decent amount.

OTT - pot is 27 I think, so I lead close to pot, 20-25. Hopefully someone picked up a two pair or a big draw - pair / gutshot with a FD - that can raise us. Which card was the heart? If it's the 3, he can have lots of broadway heart draws that only have ~20%. If it's the K, then that reduces the flush combos. So it matters which heart was on the board. You're hoping to get raised by a good draw or 2P so you can 3! shove.

OTT AP - You have to raise something decent. With your call, there's 75 in the pot, so I like popping it to 90, which commits you and hopefully gets someone to stack off or make a crying call with a dominated hand.

Surely, folding for 2 in the small blind would be a mistake. It's true we are OOP against all opponents and our hand can be easily dominated. With this in mind I do not plan to get sticky in these spots if the action gets too crazy.

I do not intend to raise because from my point of view if I raise I am only getting called by a hand that is usually better than mine. In which case I am putting more money into the pot to be in a marginal spot. I would be way more likely to raise with this on the button as I would be last to act.

My flop bet of 5 as I mentioned was something I did in previous hand where I had top pair and it went to showdown when the board ran out with undercards and I bet 15 on the turn and checked the river.

My thought here is that checking and faking to be scared of an aces allows an ace to bet. However when I check raise and get called I know that board pairing and heart are the only things to worry about but at least I charged a hefty price.

In hind sight I do like a lead out better on this turn instead of a check raise as I can get hands drawing dead to call and get value from them but check raising does not allow this to happen.

Dude, folding pre is hella nitty. Out of the question.

I don’t like leading the flop. You’re only getting called by hands with more equity than you and you have almost no fold equity. I’d check this flop with the intention of check-raising bets. This is a good hand to balance your check-raising range and I would also take this line with 33 and K3. My flop leads would prob be KT, KJ, K9 and maybe K8.

As played, checking-raising the turn isn’t terrible but I prob lead thinking check-raise looks too strong. I expect to get called or raised by hands like 33, A3, AT, KT, QT and JT. I would prob use a small size since I crush this range and to potentially induce a raise. If you’re going to check-raise, I would prob go big so big to set up river shove and stack trip 3s or some weird slowplayed big set. Your hand looks super strong with any checkraise size so might as well go for max value with the nuts imo