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if we're playing a standard 1/2 table that is very call-happy and fishy my 3b range is just going to be a standard AA-TT + AK and ill tighten that up depending on how much FE i have
with the range i described above, im shoving AA-TT and c/f AK
If I'm allowed to look at my hand preflop, then pretty much this, though I'd probably add AQ as well.
If I'm squeezing with ATC preflop, then against 2 complete unknowns I guess off the top of my head I'd shove any 2p, set, jack, any FD, or any OESD and c/f everything else (with 2 unknown players behind you and a PSB left I see little reason to make a smaller bet or to c/c, but I'm open to arguments for these actions, especially since this is such a weird spot readless), but the question is pretty moot because I would never squeeze ATC here at 1/2 without reads; not everyone is positionally aware enough, nor sufficiently willing to fold.
I think the only way to generate a compelling answer to this post is to assign them preflop calling ranges, then flop calling ranges, then calculate how often one of both of them will call a shove based on these ranges; from there we can easily solve for how much equity we need to profitably shove, and assuming we aren't taking balance or metagame considerations into account our flop shoving range has pretty much constructed itself. I thought about doing all of this but since you explicitly frowned upon it in your OP I'm not going to put in the effort. I think "no stoving lol!" is a pretty silly stipulation considering the point of this forum is to discuss strategy in more depth than you could at the table so that you'll know what to do when the situation arises; are you just trying to conduct an opinion poll to know how other players play so you can make better assumptions?