2/5NL @ Rivers NY last night. This guy is wearing a Borgata cap, and limpy preflop more than most of the table. He doesn't seem to get too out of line bluffing, most of his bets get respect though so it's tough to know for sure. His live poker etiquette isn't all that great as he forced the dealer to table my 99 earlier when I called a shortstack who announced "donation" 3bet allin to ~115 and shorty happened to have QQ and I lost. Most of the table ganged up on him saying it was a "D-bag move" to make me table my hand but he said he didn't care. This makes me think he's more of a recreational player because most pros seem to understand that etiquette is rather important and recreational players just don't care for that stuff as much. One hand I saw him play that I found semistrange was way earlier in the session he open limped MP with AhQh, someone raised in LP to ~25-30 and then someone 3bet (from blinds I think... most likely) to ~70-80 and then Mr. Borgata hat shoved all in for ~450ish. Everyone folded and he showed AhQh (seems a bit gambley to ship that hand in that spot but given that everyone folded maybe it was best hand and maybe he had a better read on table than me...who knows...or maybe he was just gambling). Only pot we really played together was where a tight UTG opened to 20, Mr. Borgata villain called MP, I elect to slowplay flat QQ in BB. Flop is J high, checked to Mr. B who bet $45. I call, UTG folds. Turn checked through. River J and I check, he seems like he's gonna bet but checks and I table my QQ first (I regret showing first, I wanna know what he had) and I win.


My image is pretty straight forward TAG but I do my best to try to talk up the table and benefit my image to get action from randoms like showing a deuce if I get through a bluff in small pot (I did that once to this villain, but it actually wasn't a bluff but I tabled a 2 to make it look bluffy) but I'm overall just TAG not getting out of line. There was one hand though where I 3bet in this same spot with TT and the UTG blind raiser snap raised to 200 and I made a semi-quick fold so mayyybe if he paid attention that hand he could perceive me as being light/squeezey in this spot but who knows.

HERE IS THE HAND IN QUESTION:

There is a blindraise UTG from maniac to $30, next guy in flat calls. I look down at AJo and figure I'm way ahead of blind raisers range and I would expect the next guy in to 3bet AQ+ and strong PPs since it's clear that the blindraiser was blind (he's been doing it all night) so I elect to 3bet my AJo to $120. Folds to Mr. Borgata hat villain in blinds (I think he is SB, mayyybe he was BB though I'm really not sure) and he's about slightly less than $500 deep to start this hand. He tanks for roughly 25 seconds and decides to flat and my red flag goes off for HE HAS A BIG HAND. I would think his range is QQ/KK/AA and mayyybe JJ or unlikely TT. AK seems to be pretty big part of his range too. I think he's folding anything else worse than this though, but who knows. Everyone else folds and it's Heads up pot.

Flop is A7Q

He checks. I check.

Turn J

He checks. I bet $140. He quickly goes all in for ~220 more.

My initial thought was damn my hand is so strong here and pot odds are pretty great but then I started to replay the hand and how much he called from OOP and what type of strong range I assigned to him preflop. Given this board, the only thing I really am ahead of is AK. I highly doubt he would spaz out with KK here and I can't imagine him showing up with a draw/combo draw here. Maybe it's a tough spot, maybe it's an easy spot. I really am not sure. What's your thoughts?

I'll post results later if people want after some discussion. Thanks.

Eugh tough spot.

I thinkkkkk I would call but I wouldn't be too happy about it. We beat AK which is a part of his range, but lose to KT (if he calls with that pre, probably not), QQ (3 combos), JJ (1 combo) and AA (1 Combo). Given previous history he may jam with a hand like KJdd but again that's 1 combo, we also lose to AQ. Not sure if it's possible but we also beat 9Tdd if that's in his perceived range, possibly not but you'll know better than me.

Is he the type of player to ever donk bet? There are SO many bad turn cards on that board for flopped sets so villain may choose to lead out on that board with that part of his range?

Overall given the history of looseness from Villain, and getting 2.5/1~ then I would probably tank call if villain ever bluffs/semi bluffs in this spot, which there is evidence to suggest that they would

Based on your range for the V, I think the turn is too thin since the relative value of your hand is behind. 14 combos ahead (AA/AQ/QQ/JJ), 8 of AK behind, and I guess 4 of AJ that chop.

I'd size smaller pre and turn. After putting in a large portion of the effective stack, folding is not usually optimal.

there is no folding once pot gets to be $300 preflop and you flop top pair and villain has $360 behind. if you are beat its a cooler and move on. random rec players can be wider than you are perceiving him, sometimes they just get bored and see a big pot brewing and want to gamble.

I think the 3bet size PF was way to big, likely you get the same affect by raising to 85 or 90. Was the table chalked full of limpers?

As played I probably call seeing as though he has shown the ability to shove light. Not feeling great about it though


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Call, his range should be wider than you think given description, would not be surprised to see hands like

kq,jt, 2 diamonds, qj