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08-23-2015 , 11:51 PM
First hand post for me..

Full ring, I'm sitting with about $300 utg +2 and my image is pretty tight.
Limps around to me and I limp with A6 spades...next player whose sitting with about $400 behind and has been playing fairly tight passive makes it $15 to go. Everyone folds and the SB and another limper calls so I decide to come along.

Flop is 4s6h2c, checked around to preflop aggressor and he bets $30. SB calls and I call

Turn Jh. Checked around again he bets $70. SB calls, I fold

River is a Kd and both players check. SB turns over 5s2s and pf aggressor turns over AxQx and the small blind wins. Can I play this hand any differently? I didn't want to raise the flop bc I probably not getting called by much worse.
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08-24-2015 , 12:17 AM
Raise pre. Bet the flop. Bet the turn.
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08-24-2015 , 01:20 AM
I like leading the flop here as sort of a way to find out where you're at. If he raises in a you wiith 2 other opponents yet to act you're probably facing an overpair. I don't agree to raise pre though. In my experience that'll lead to 4 way action and you'll flop a weak pair, aces w a weak kicker, or air and 3 opponents that might have hit far too often.
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08-24-2015 , 01:23 AM
Fold preflop.
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08-24-2015 , 01:42 AM
Lead or check raise flop...your rarely seeing a card on the turn you like so you are most likely just tossing the $30 away by just calling...if you don't feel comfortable with raising that flop then you should just be folding pre or post flop.
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08-24-2015 , 04:18 AM
V played the hand well. SB with 52ss was just a fish/calling station. Against a player like V capable of double-barreling on the turn and with position on you, you should either fold or check/raise the flop. But even better, fold preflop.
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08-24-2015 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Homerphobe
I like leading the flop here as sort of a way to find out where you're at.
I don't like this against good opponents who will raise your flop donk bets with air correctly knowing your range is capped at 6x/77 type hands here that can't face too much heat. Even if there are 2 players left to act after him.
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08-24-2015 , 04:22 AM
I don't like raising pre, because there is approx. a ~40% chance that one of the remaining 7 players has an ace with a bigger kicker.

I don't like calling pre, because odds are there will be a raise pre & all you have is a flush draw hand for the most part & you're in EP.

Don't you just love having to call $70 on the turn in case you have the best hand? I guess not, since you folded after tossing in $45 so far & then folding to a $70 bet with ~$275 in the pot.
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08-24-2015 , 12:50 PM
I also typically try to limp into cheap pots with Axs from any position (at least at more passive tables, although this still could admittedly be a little leaky). I typically would want 5way action before calling the raise, but 4ways and having position on most of the field, plus ok relative position to the raiser (where we can let him cbet and then see the others react before having to act), I might also call here. It's loose.

If we're going to make speculative calls preflop, then we definitely have to play postflop well. Preflop raiser cbet into 3 opponents, and another guy called on a fairly drawless board. We don't have any good draws, all we have is very small TP (heck, we can easily be in third place here). Easy check/fold on the flop for me, this isn't the hand I was looking to hit versus any type of action.

Definite fold on the turn.

We will sometimes fold the winning hand, but that's fine when our hand is mediocre (which this hand is). Now lets just make a real hand against these morons and make some money.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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08-24-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
V played the hand well.
I think V played the hand horrible. He cbet into 3 opponents (at least two of which are fishy calling stations, imo) on a 6 high board with no scare cards to rep, and then continued betting the turn into an obvious calling station.

Ghe'sbleedingmoneyatthesetables,imoG
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08-24-2015 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 6betfold
I don't like this against good opponents who will raise your flop donk bets with air correctly knowing your range is capped at 6x/77 type hands here that can't face too much heat. Even if there are 2 players left to act after him.
This is 1/3. I'm going to assume they're not good until they give me a significant amount of information to suggest otherwise. BTW, I'd also lead a set, top two, or top pair with a gunshot so not capped at 77/6x.
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08-24-2015 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Homerphobe
This is 1/3. I'm going to assume they're not good until they give me a significant amount of information to suggest otherwise. BTW, I'd also lead a set, top two, or top pair with a gunshot so not capped at 77/6x.
I wasn't talking about you, most of the LLSNL recs are check raising strong hands here.
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08-24-2015 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I think V played the hand horrible. He cbet into 3 opponents (at least two of which are fishy calling stations, imo) on a 6 high board with no scare cards to rep, and then continued betting the turn into an obvious calling station.

Ghe'sbleedingmoneyatthesetables,imoG
Yeah actually flop bet is spewy but the part I liked was the double barrel but not sure why he wouldn't triple barrel on that awesome river card. Take my words back lol.
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08-24-2015 , 09:42 PM
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Can I play this hand any differently?
Yes, fold pre. Don't even bother open limping. You're OOP with a crap Ace. Unless you flop a flush (which you won't get paid on) or a FD, (most likely have to pay to draw) you have a hand with little to no showdown value.

Save that hand for the CO or BTN. Then you can overlimp, ISO raise, or 3 bet a wide opener.
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08-24-2015 , 10:54 PM
What a bunch of nits you guys are....jebus
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08-25-2015 , 04:06 AM
I wouldn't see the flop unless I could win the hand without making a monster.
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