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Originally Posted by sauhund
i find it quite unbelievable that so many posters actually consider a fold here...
Its rare but I think this was one of those rare situations where it might be correct. His range preflop is heavily weighted to qq kk and aa by his tightness and bet sizing (low levels players do this massive raise with qq+ play all the time here) and his lead pot tough call further indicates a big pp and weights him heavily toward it being the kings or slow playing 99 but i think the latter is rare. ak is all but eliminated from his range unless its diamond diamond.
Once the k drops I'm concerned but what kills it for me is he quickly leads out 100 max AFTER barely calling flop raise. Slightly comforting is if his range is qq kk or aa there are 10 outs for set over set, whichever big pair he has only has 2 of those outs. After the turn lead I can only put him on 99 (rare) kk (most likely) and AA. Maybe a tiny bit of AKdd. To be honest I'm not concerned about qj as played from this guy much, but its possible and has to be included.
The pot is actually at 330 I accidently raised to 145 on the flop not 150. So as someone said if I call flop I never fold turn bet so we are essentially calling 200 for a 730 dollar pot. Therefore we have to win this by the river only 27% of the time assuming he will bet again on any river. I think he might have Kk here more than 63% of the time based on several factors and a Q or A can still drop. Does he have KK more than 60%(think we have to reduce it a bit because his Aa range still has like 4% to hit river)? I think maybe.
I did end up calling and the worst card drops ace of diamond, also complete flushes (not that this is in his range much at all). He leads I have to call at this point
Last edited by forgotmyoldname; 05-19-2013 at 07:28 PM.