Why?

Stack sizes say do not 3 bet pre. 3 bet pre only if you are uncomfortable playing multi-street poker. The hand becomes a lot easier if you 3-bet and cut the SPR down to play one less street, but you make just as much if not more money with less risk if you call. Turn play is history dependent.

Flat or 3bet pre are both fine options. If he's spewy then that means he probably bluffs too much w/ little equity postflop so flatting to let him spew w/ initiative is probably better.

On the turn you really can't fold with the read that he's spewy and with this wet of a board.

Easy fold for me preflop. Our implied odds are only 15x. Being in position does not make up for playing a dominated offsuit hand here, imo, especially when we'll have to fold to his cbet often.

As played, I'd feel committed against shortstack V2 but not deeper V1. When V1 checks the flop, I feel like I always have the best hand and thus would probably PSB the flop to go against V2.

Weird postflop line by V1. Our flop bet certainly was on the small side, so maybe he's picking up on a perceived weakness. The question is whether he would really let this flop check thru / not check/raise with a big hand. This kinda looks like the 3 actually helped him or he's doing a weird semibluff (but wouldn't he semibluff the flop?). Tough spot. In the end, it really depends on Villain. I play with a lot of Villains who are insanely loose preflop, but then actually fairly ABC postflop (and hope their preflop looseness gets paid off), so against these Villains I would fold.

ETA: I can understand why people want to see a flop preflop (either calling or raising). I think at times I'm too tight for my own good, but I also don't think a fold here is terrible; he's going to typically apply pressure to us postflop, and it's going to be difficult to continue to that pressure a lot of times even with TP, let alone when we flop air (which will be the majority of the time). And given the way Villain played his monster draw on the flop, we obviously don't have a very good handle on what he has or how he plays them; really, who among us thought he flopped a monster draw given his flop play?

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Ive read all this and IMHO i dont see why we cant flat this pre with 15x vs said villian, hes going to spew into us from out of position, we can surely know when hes nutted i think if we have history, i think the important thing to remember is to chill post...

which brings me to the flop this is a great flop for us on a ridiculously wet board the last we want to do is bet after being checked to we know he doesnt have a strong K, i would employ gobbledygeek mode here pot control all day vs this guy and check back going with the original plan of letting and aggro spewy guy spill into us from oop...

we want to widen his range and we want to not get put in tough spots for stacks vs a half the deck draw lol and we can achieve this on the turn if we chk back flop he bets we flat and we have an easy decision on river where hell probably jam anyways but we fold when dimes come for example. (or we just reshove turn when his equity is cut to shreds)

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