1/3 NLH in HTX Social Club. 10 handed.

HTX games tend to play bigger than the blinds and this game was no exception. Most opening pf raises are to $20-$30. Game has been playing pretty spewy and bluffy.

Hero: MAAG has good image by showing down good cards and recently called a river shove of $250 with Ace high and was good. $1,100.00 eff

V1: MAWG is in almost every hand. Weird bet sizings but bets all draws/made hands the same and isn't scared to bluff with one pair on scary runouts. Been stacked a few times and has reloaded. $800.00 eff

V2: Young white kid in early 20's. Thinking player. I have played with him several times before. He plays aggressive and very sporty. Piles in the chips when he's ahead and doesn't mind shoving with big draws and making big bluffs. However, I don't think he's type to call off with draws unless it's with good odds. He just sat down for an orbit. $1,000.00 eff

OTTH:

Hero, UTG +1 opens to $15 with AcJs

V2, calls in MP

4 others call behind

V1 in SB calls and BB folds

Flop ($108): Jd6c8c.

V1 bets $25, Hero calls, V2 auto raises to $100, everyone else folds, V1 calls and I think and call

Turn ($408.00): 5c

V1 donks $200. I think and look at V2 to get his reaction. V2 is stone faced, shuffling his chips and staring at the board. I think and call the $200. V2 now kinda let's out a small sigh and calls too

River ($1,008.00): 6s

V1 checks, I check and V2 insta jams this stack, about $600. V1 folds. Hero?

My thoughts:

PF - Prob should of opened to $20

Flop - I should of raised to $75 with this wet board and charge draws

Turn - With TPTK and Ac I was going to raise to $500 but jic V2 raised with a flush draw I didn't want to get 3! out of position and went with lower variance play

River - After V1 folds I tank and start ranging V2's hand. 66, 88, JJ are unlikely as he would 3! pre and I block that. AA, KK, QQ are out of question for the same reason as JJ. 97s turns straight but was cautious with turn 5c. The only hands I can beat are JKc, JQc and a stone cold bluff like 910 with one club. But what can V2 be shoving with when he calls $200 OTT?

Thoughts guys?

Pre is kinda gross, because AJo is a decent hand, but our position sucks. I might actually limp this one and hope it tempts dominated aces into overlimping. Then if someone raises, we can count the limpers, raise callers, etc, and either call with a under-repped hand or just for a trouble hand OOP.

AP, Flop is a must raise, and bigger than $75. $75 is only $50 more, and still gives great odds to draws. I make it $100, and I don't hate $125. AP, after V2's raise I'd consider a re-raise. Yes, we're kinda turning our hand into a bluff here, but we're in a bad position on a drawy board, and V2's sizing ($75 more into $175) does not make much sense for a set.

AP, Turn is a fold. All the draws came in, V1's flop bet screamed price-setter and now he's betting value-y, and you're sandwiched.

River is a fold, imo. Sure, we're under-repped, but this board has boats, flushes, and straights galore and has had a ton of action, and V2 is still shoving into two Vs. We have a nice bluff-catcher, but nothing you have told me about V2 makes me think that he's aggro enough to have many bluffs on this board after this action.

Given the table description I'm not opening AJo from EP. Flop play is driven by weird bet sizing but obvious. With TPTK on a super wet board I will often flat the flop and see what I want to do on safe turn cards. Between the flush draw, lots of possible straight cards and chance your beat already I don't think this is a hand to get too invested in.

I probably fold the turn. Both 97 and club draws got there so there is a god chance clubs are your only outs. Squeezed between two opponents I don't think this is a good enough situation.

On the river it sounds like you have enough history that it's really a live read. I would favor fold but your hand is good enough and his bet small enough I would call it off sometimes.

Turn smashes our range after calling flop twice and can be a bluff shove, but I don't think we're strong enough to call not closing action. V1 might call with worse pair+draw type hands as a bonus.

It's tough to come up with a single combo you beat on the river. Fold.

I really like the flop raise to $100/$125 to"define" my hand/charge draws. However, once it turns the 5c, I think it's going to hard to fold TPTK and drawing to the nuts. Obviously, if it gets jammed in front or behind me, I can fold......but its hard to fold a real hand to V1....he's just too spewy

Flatting the flop to see what the turn brings was my initial thought but I think raising is better and felt that way immediately after I called. For me, folding the turn is out of the question based on V1 spewy's play (maybe not even thinking about folding the turn is spewy too). If V2 jams behind, then i have a decision

Since, I did not raise the turn, I think V2 ranges me with an OP with a club. I think he feels he can shove the river for value/bluff as both the turn and river hits his perceived ranges. Very polarized

You're not drawing to the nuts. One combo of SF is already out there, and three of your outs are also outs to a one card SF. You also really don't have any IOs if a 4 card flush is out there, unless they have Kc.

Plus you said that V is betting draws and made hands, not air. Basically all of his draws from the flop are now made hands.

+1, you're right

Not sure if there's a worse hand I'd rather see a bloated multlway pot with OOP than AJo. I fold preflop, and think raising is the worst, but I also rarely play this deep so whatever.

I sigh call the flop donk and sigh fold to the flop raise. Then I go back in time and don't bloat pots OOP multiway with crap hands. Just, imo.

I think we have to fold the turn. We're only getting 3:1, we're unlikely to get action on a 4-to-a-flush, some of our outs could be dead, some of our A/J/flush "outs" could actually have horrible RIO, plus there's still the flop raiser behind us to act.

I fold on the river.

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He still has to be bluffing with something. He called turn and you have the Ac so he can't have air. Like you said your hand looks like an OP or TP so he likely had that beaten on the turn unless he has something like 87 which seems like a pretty bad call with this action on this turn. "Bluffs" is not a range. You still need to come up with specific hands he could be bluffing with for calling to be reasonable.

Concur.

So bottom line is I tanked and wanted to hero but I couldn't come up with any hands/bluffs that I could beat, other the the hands I mentioned earlier. I took 2 minutes and mucked and V2 mucks....gg

After the hand V1 said he had two pair. I have to assume 85 - flopped a pair (and led into the field) and turned 2P, which totally makes sense based on his previous play.

That should take 88 out of V2's range. And another guy said he had J6. V2's range now seems to be down to straights and flushes.

Both V2 and I wouldn't divulge what we had (I never tell/show my hand at the table). He said he would tell me what he had off the table but i haven't seen him since.

Will keep y'all posted and I appreciate the insight.

V2 said he had 88....poker is easy