How's my flop raise is it to small?
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 138
Blinds £1-£2
Reads 2-3 bad players at my table no 3b light Pre flop people making light calls on river and seems a good game.
Hero utg+1 77 raises to £10
V1 Sb calls v2 bb calls
Reads v1 has us covered for £300 competent chines player but still calls oop if he wants to play a hand
V2 £140 45yo Indian guy
Pot £30
Flop 7jqr
V1 b £15
V2 call
Hero raises to £50
V1 fold
V2 calls
Pot £120
Turn kc bringing flush draw
V2 cks
Hero shoves for £85 more
I put him on a range of top pair otf could easily have 2 pair otf or ott no sets as v would raise jj, qq, kk Pre. He could also have the str8 which would be unlikely what do you guys think?
Also I'm thinking if my flop raise was too small with two people showing interest?
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,240
Flop raise was way too small, although with no money behind you, it's fine since you can get in OTT anyway w/o an overbet.
But you really need to start rethinking how you play 77 UTG+1 with only 73ish BB. I mean, look, you hit your set! And now you don't have enough money to get paid. All your raise does preflop is cost you more money when you are beat, and cost you implied odds when you hit. Limp or fold with this small a stack, please.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 138
Maybe my post was confusing I had 150bb Pre flop I had v2 covered
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Looks OK. With a bet and call, I probably go a bit more here because of the multiple possible high straight draws. Unless villains are stationary though, I'm just going £60/£65.
In any case, against V2 the turn shove is obvious. The K is more likely to give him two pair or pair+straight draw then beat you and with his stack you can't fold. JJ is the only hand likely to be beating you, and that isn't very likely, there have to be more worse hands in his range then hands that beat you.
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Kinda confusing with the stack sizes. But yes, your flop raise was too small. It fine if you were heads up with Villain2, as his small stack will commit him pretty easily on the turn. So it ended up ok, but you don't know that ahead of time.
You need to play to try and get the big stack in the middle. Raise to 65-70 next time and build that pot. Then depending on the turn card you can either value-town the villain, or slight over-bet shove.
Join Date: Jan 2013
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UTG, you should have made it 14-18. To many people behind you if you didn't want everyone to call.
Or make it 5-8. If everyone is calling anyways why inflate?
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Looks fine imo. Not sure why people are saying flop raise is too small. 15->50 is good enough.. do we really want to give our hand away and not get any callers by raising higher..?
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 138
I want people to call when I raise Pre flop ideally 3+
My open has also been fixed at £10 plus £2 for every limper, if I open to 5-8 I'm sure someone would see this as weak. Also if I open to 14-18 I'm only getting called or raised by better.