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02-11-2019 , 12:19 PM
Playing 2/5. Table is particularly bad/aggro

Hero $1400 - Weird night so far because my money has come from picking off bluffs with weak made hands. Not that villain is paying any attention.
Villain >$2K - Loose/passive preflop and favors the any two suited type hands. Post he calls with weak made hands on the flop but gives up to continued aggression most of the time. Chases his OESD and flush draws to the river and then gives up. Over bets his actual value, will check/raise when he catches something unexpected but bets his obvious flush draws when they hit. Pretty standard fish but hitting the deck hard.

Hero in EP raises to $20 with QcQs
Unknown calls
Regular calls
Villain calls in LP
Unknown fish on BTN calls
Grinder in BB calls

Pot is $122
Flop is Jh6h2c
Hero bets $80
Villain calls, everybody else folds.
$20 was a typical open and usually got 1/2 callers. Favorable flop for my hand and I could see villain had not given up on his hand. I was watching him because nobody else in the hand was going to give obvious tells. As long as nobody flopped a set I'm in good shape and I want to charge villain so I go big. Villain's call here is pretty wide with lots of flush draws.

Pot is $282
Board is Jh6h2c4d
Hero bets $175
Villain calls
Turn is good brick. Villain is calling a big bet with flush draws. Could still have JX but folds the weaker ones, this villain could have stuff like Jd5d when he calls preflop and flop. Would raise with two pair/set on the turn.

Pot is $630
Board is Jh6h2c4d3s
What to do here? I almost always have the best hand but it feels like there is almost no value in betting. Heart draws make up most of his range but they just fold to any bet and he won't bluff if I check. He could turn up with QJ-AJ that might call a bet but he could also have some random heart draw with a 5 or have two pair some how. He won't bluff and isn't likely to bet one pair, if he bets he probably has two pair+.
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02-11-2019 , 12:25 PM
Well played up until river. Betting smaller to target his Jx hands makes sense here. Something around 200.


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02-11-2019 , 12:35 PM
If you would have heard from 2pr+, seems to be more JX combos than 5X combos, so I'd go $180/fold.
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02-12-2019 , 11:42 AM
I bet $300 and villain folded QJ face up. That is what really got me thinking about what value I really had. If this guy really folds all of his one pair hands on the river or earlier he is great target for bluffs but there isn't really any reason to bet one pair on the river. Against villains who are that weak though I will have to try some small suck bets.
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02-12-2019 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
I bet $300 and villain folded QJ face up. That is what really got me thinking about what value I really had. If this guy really folds all of his one pair hands on the river or earlier he is great target for bluffs but there isn't really any reason to bet one pair on the river. Against villains who are that weak though I will have to try some small suck bets.
Yeah, pretty much exactly this. I don’t need to tell you, but villains like the one you described don’t understand the first thing about even the most basic principles of bet sizing, which is why ~1/4th PSB is almost always better than the alternatives in this spot. Oftentimes, it just means they’re more likely to call with weaker holdings. It carries no other substantive weight to many of them.
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02-12-2019 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Villain >$2K - Loose/passive preflop and favors the any two suited type hands. Post he calls with weak made hands on the flop but gives up to continued aggression most of the time. Chases his OESD and flush draws to the river and then gives up. Over bets his actual value, will check/raise when he catches something unexpected but bets his obvious flush draws when they hit. Pretty standard fish but hitting the deck hard.
Given the above, I leaned smaller. Right on though, can bluff him with more frequency on certain textures and runouts.
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02-12-2019 , 02:18 PM
I open $20 at tough 2/5 tables but the described table seems like you can easily get away with $25 and most likely $30.

I like hand up until the river. I would probably x/c here. He may even decide to turn Jx into a bluff repping 5X.
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02-13-2019 , 05:48 AM
If villain is calling with flush draws and top pair why not bet higher on turn? Like 200-210?
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