As a player, about how many hours playing in a casino live is reasonable in order to evaluate whether you're a winning player or not at $1/2?

1000 if you want a rough estimate of your true winrate but if youre crushing after like 500 its probably not a heater, youre prob a winning player.

1/2 is easy peasy

Good to know, I'm trying not to get too confident. I remind myself that I intentionally seek out the worst players when I play where I do.

Along with a decent sample size another thing that helps is if you keep a poker journal, record (3 - 7) key hands in a session and then analyze those key hands. What you are looking for are opportunities where reciprocity comes into play. Winning a big pot with set over set doesn't mean you are a good winning player. However going for a thin value bet based on a read and picking up an extra $50 that your typical villains would not does.

500 or so hours is a decent sample size to determine if you're winning, losing or breakeven. You want at least 2k hours to get to get an accurate and reliable measure of your true winrate. If you crush the game, you need a smaller sample than others. If you're close to breakeven you need a much bigger sample than others

All hijacking aside,

What exactly is "crushing" 1/2?

If you want I can watch you for 15min and tell you if you're winning or not. That way you can do something else with the other 1000hrs.

Thats actually a really good strategy!





Like $30/hr for a $300max game that is raked $5+1

$20/hour for 2000 hours.

A famous poker author, I forget which one, defined crushing a game as beating it for over 10bbs/hr. I've always assumed that was meant to be applied for 100bb games. But defining "crushing poker", or even win rates in general, is basically a lost cause. Long story short, by the time you have a sample size large enough to get a realistic estimate of your win-rate table conditions and the said player have changed so much (hopefully) that win-rates aren't applicable. In short, chasing a definitive win-rate is a fool's errand. You're much better off evaluating the quality of your decision making. Moreover, you should be able to sit at a table and pick out leaks in every player's game within an hour. If you can't do this you aren't likely "crushing" the game. Lastly, if you are positive after 400 hours you're likely a winning player. But that number is highly variable depending on your style of play. Just take it one hand at a time OP, and go from there.

Too lazy to merge this in the Winrates and Bankroll containment thread. Go there with your question see the answers.

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