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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
There are lots of limped pots in 1/2 and even 2/5. If you limped in EP with some low to medium PP and theres no raise, there are lots of pots you can steal if you play well post flop. That's what I meant by playing these well post flop.
Sure there are lots of limped pots, but how many is enough that it becomes profitable to limp 22 to set mine UTG? If somebody raises every other hand to 7BB, should I still limp it? That's pretty typical. I do encounter games where raises are rare sometimes but these have their own problems with limping low PPs: namely, the other players are also limping PPs up to JJ or higher so we have a lot of RIO; the players are so weak tight it's hard to get much value when we hit a set; and when we miss on three overcard flops and consider stealing the pot, we often run into surprisingly strong hands like AK KQ KJ QJ etc.
So stealing OOP 5 ways? I try that sometimes and it almost never works. And when it does work, it's usually because nobody has a pair and therefore I had the best hand anyway.
I mean can you elaborate on your strategy for picking when to bluff? Like say I limp 33 UTG flop is QT4css. I assume you're not advocating just betting into this. So say I check and it gets checked around. Now the turn is a blank, say the 7d. I sometimes would try to bet here, but my experience is in a limped pot, even a pot sized bet will usually get called by any draw whatsoever, any Q, any T, sometimes even a 7 or 4 after the flop gets checked through. Unless I do a huge overbet (like 2x+) I tend to get called probably twice on average. So say I check and again it gets checked through. River is another seemingly blank card, the 8c. So board is QT478cssdc. Again I can try to pick up the pot but it takes at least a PSB and I'm getting looked up well over half the time, and I always lose if I get looked up. On the other hand I can check and if everyone completely missed they'll typically check it down and I win the pot with no risk. Sometimes the button will try to steal the pot but I can usually figure out if he is value betting or just stabbing at the pot and I can then bluff catch.
For me, in the passive 1/2 games I typically encounter, this seems like the best line. You'd be amazed (or maybe not, IDK) at how often people check down strongish hands in limped multiway pots like TPWK, sometimes even sets trying to hit quads for a high hand, so bluffing is very risky and when it does work we usually had the best hand.
At 2/5 it's totally different. People have fold buttons. Maybe we're talking apples and oranges here. But the OP here is playing 1/3 which runs a lot closer to 1/2 in how it plays.
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
As far as the blinds after a straddle, I do fold them a lot more often than I would fold them in EP of a standard hand because like you said, people seem to raise more often when there's a straddle (especially the straddler) and the raises are too big to set mine.
Makes sense. Thanks.