$1/$3 NLHE Jack Casino Cincinnati

New game for this casino. Until now, the smallest NL game was $1/$2 with $50 - $200 starting stack and UTG straddle. Now it is $100 - $300 and allowing Mississippi Straddle. I know 3 other players at the table.

1 seat - Young semi-pro. Plays $2/$5 mostly. We have played a lot together over the last year and he is almost ready to take the plunge and play full time for income. He does talk a lot about strat at the table but overall plays fairly solid and balanced. He got stacked in the first hand that I sat down with only $200 in front of him. He was the button straddle and with 5 callers, he bumped it up to $46 and the SB called. Flop was KT6 with 2 clubs. Seat 2 donk leads for $75 and Seat 1 goes all in.

2 seat - MAWG. In the past, I have only seen him play with 50 bb or less to start. Upon arrival at the table, I see he has about $300 in front of him so I am not sure if he ran it up or started from there. He plays at least 50% of hands and has donk led a couple of times without showdown. Both times, the bet size was more than the size of the pot. He is watching football on his phone and complaining about not having his high hand hold up twice now. $300 stack.

3 seat - HERO- Almost 40 year old white guy. All of these guys know that I play a lot but I sell myself as a small business owner that just loses a lot playing poker. I make an effort of not making my abilities known to the table. $400 stack at the time of the hand.

4-7 seat Irrelevant in this hand

8 seat - OMC short stacking it up likely trying to hit the HH and hit and run. In an earlier hand, he had AJ off in EP. Just limped in and called a raise. Hit the A on the turn and checked the turn and river down 4 ways to take down the small pot. Has $150 to start hand.


OTTH
MP limps.
Seat 8 raises to $15.
Folded to Seat 2 who calls.
Hero has 99 and calls.
Limper folds.

Flop ($48) 9 7 2
SB (seat 2) checks
Hero checks
Seat 8 bets $20.
SB folds.
Hero?

raises 60 to jam turn and if he folds then so be it

if a turbonit is folding too easily you don't exploit it by trapping with your strong hands. you exploit it by bluffing with more weak hands.


e: actually the fact that he's so tight but raised preflop makes me want to fastplay this even more. if he has an overpair he is never folding, even if you jam flop and then immediately chug a bottle of water.

Two things that are likely true.

OMC has overpair.
OMC will slow down if a draw comes in.

If we assume those things to be true, we want to get as much money in as we can early.

I would have led out $45 on flop (don't let him OMC nit control the pot size. he didn't come here to fold kings either so make it big). Rest on turn.

As played, raise to $50. $50 turn. Rest on river. The checkraise is scary while leading out is not. OMC thinks you have A9 or two clubs if you lead out. OMC gets worried and his kings don't look so good if you c/r.

I like a c/r to $55 or something. It doesn't have to be large since he's on a two outer the vast majority of the time.

Always raising on this wet board and hoping it looks like a semi-bluff to him.

Unfortunately, a c/r looks less like a semi-bluff. Would prefer a lead out.

I think a c/r is a much more common line for a semi-bluff than a donk, which is more often a made hand afraid of the flop checking through.

Are you really asking what to do with the nuts? Stop thinking about what your actual hand is because it doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is what he has. This should not even be a thread. You realize you can check raise on this texture with napkins and get him to fold so why does your hand matter. If your c/r from the blinds is always this nutted then you are going to be very predictable

The short answer is always raise, but have stone cold bluffs too

i really dont like raising flops, for it always denotes strength.
so of they bet, i will just flat and hopes no scary turn and even so, we can fill up later.

but i dont know, maybe some guys can shed some light here.
i always feel that i lost too much value when i raise and they fold on the flop.

I would just shove here, OMC started the hand with 150 and won't fold TT+. No need to give him a chance to fold on action killer turns. If he happens to have AK, he's done with the hand anyway if he doesn't hit the turn. He won't bluff, that's for sure.

A shove seems superstandard.

Just shove. If he doesn't have an overpair you can't get any more money. If he does and folds it (you'll be able to tell because he'll agonise for 800 years) make a mental note to bluff him more. Give him a single decision point and don't let any more cards come out. I think raising smaller doesn't look any less strong and just gives him an extra opportunity to fold after the 8 or whatever rolls off the top.

If it's so strong to raise flops, then do it more as a bluff.

Honestly just x/jamming flop here, since OMC only has $135 total once he reaches the flop.

And if he wants to fold an overpair to my flop x/jam, then he's going to be punished hard when I x/jam all my draws here, too.

Strongly disagree. Leading is what fish do when they hit a pair. Checkraising is what regs do when they balance draws with strong made hands.

^exactly this.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I find the comments to be beneficial. All besides this one. This is a community for learning and exchanging of ideas. These types of hands make up such a large % of our win rate, so these are the most important questions one should ask.

Exactly. We are going on the assumption OMC has an overpair. We want to look like A9. If we lead out here OMC may even raise for us.

Fold preflop. You dont call a $15 raise from an OMC who only starts the hand with $150.

If you dont stack him here, you need to kick yourself in the nuts.

Major leak alert!!!!!

Waiting to cooler people is not a winning strategy. If your afraid you are never getting paid off. Then you need to bluff more until you do.

Here comes:

" Bluffing doesn't work in LLSNL."

If bluffing doesn't work, then you should never be afraid to raise for value.

Here's the questions that need to be asked

Will villain stack off with an overpair on this flop? If the answer is sometimes then what portion of the time will he?

Will villain bet a flush draw on the flop? I would imagine no, but there is some chance...

What will villain do on the turn if he still has an overpair? if an overcard comes?

The lines OTF are as follows

Jam: This has the pro of getting it in really good, and the con of potentially allowing villain to get away from an overpair, which is obviously a disaster

Raise small: same as jamming really, allows us to jam any turn with giving villain a good price, without nearly as much disaster potential of letting him fold.

Call: Villain is most likely never going to have a flush draw here, so we don't really need to be afraid of being drawn out on. Folding out hand on any turn is out of the question, so calling allows us to c/r turn for almost no more $ with roughly 0% chance of him folding

Overall my play depends on the responses to the above questions

I think there is very little merit to jamming, as we're gonna get all the money in anyway and jamming gives him the opportunity to make a hero fold. If you're really confident he will call a jam with an overpair then its a good option but I tend to minimize my disaster potential in spots like this (possible leak). I think there is roughly equal merit to calling and clicking it back to like $40.

If we think that villain is likely to check back if an overcard to his pair comes, then i would be more inclined to raise small, which allows us to lead all in on brick turns. If we raise and the turn is either an A or a club I would bet less than all in so as to basically force him to call with KK-TT, and jam river. If he will continue to bet on a flush/overcard, then we can just call flop and c/jam any turn.

There is another player in the hand with 100bb that called in the middle. Are we really folding here? If so, what are you doing with TT and JJ in this same situation preflop?

If hes an actual OMC and not just an old guy, I'm folding JJ/TT also. You are never ahead of an OMCs 5x raise and he doesnt have enough chips to set mine. The other player makes it a little better I guess, but I still muck it.

I know some guys I would call OMCs that will actually raise AK but they always "check dark". Every time they raise and then check dark they have AK. If your guy is one of those guys then I would call the raise....with tons of hands.

I think the topic's been covered to death. Results?

I agree. Standard OMC is QQ+ here. If he’s not he’s actually a competent short stack player and not a typical OMC. Standard OMC limp JJ/AK. Min raise suited junk and small pairs. Anything 5x is just a bomb.