V is a regular in the room. He's a younger white guy with a hoodie who stares at his phone all the time. He's a decent LAG player who opens a lot, 3-bets a lot and applies pressure to weaker opponents. He's two to my left and this is probably a good spot for a table change, but the table just opened, there are several other larger stacks at the table and the action seems to be good. The room recently changed their buy-in range to $300-$1000 and it's not unusual for even weaker players to buy-in for $500 to max.

H bought in for $600. V bought in max. I probably should be buying in for more but I'm not truly rolled for 2/5. I hate playing 1/2 here. It's infested with old south Florida nits.

About two orbits in, H opens UTG to $20 with 44. V 3-bets to $70 and H flats.

Flop ($147): 356

H checks. V c-bets $100. His c-bet range is his whole 3-bet range or close to it, so most pairs, a lot of AK, AQ, AJs, KQ, maybe ATs and KJs and I can see him sometimes showing up here with suited connectors 7-8+.

Like I said, he 3-bets a LOT, at least once per orbit and he doesn't flat much from the button or cutoff.

Hero decides to shove.

Thoughts?

I like it. This looks like a semi-bluffing board, so you're not getting a lot of overpairs to fold, but maybe he'll see you as the sort to try to protect a set on this drawy board. Plus you have 40% equity against overpairs to fall back on. In the mean time, getting him to fold his equity from overs doesn't suck.

Not bad. Lots of better hands can fold, lots of high equity hands can fold, some worse hands can call. I like the pressure.

PF seems bad, post flop is standard.

Flop seems okay, but fold 44 UTG. Definitely folding to the 3 bet.

I like it, too. Granted, I don't think he's folding much, but I'm OK with the play for the slight FE we have and our potential

I don't like pre. Limp at the right table or just fold.

Flipping at best vs a combination of NFD's and overpairs. He's not cbetting air on a flop like this. Setmining OOP HU is bad. Just fold pre next time unless you get at least 1 caller.

one question?

if your not properly rolled to buy in for the max then why
risk your stack here ????

I like the play based on we know we're flipping for $600

I hate the play based on your comment of not properly rolled.

Fold to the 3 bet pre. If V is the only aggressive 3 bettor, opening it pre is fine. If there’s other aggressive players, fold it.


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Fold 22->55 pre UTG but then turbo fold to the 3bet. This is a bad call, bordering on terrible. I used to think flatting baby pockets to 3bets was OK and then I checked my database, long story short I was bleeding money flat calling an extra 6bb in a 100bb stack. You are flatting an extra 10% of your stack.

AP flop seems like you print money against a wide range. He's going to have to give up a lot of the time and you collect $247 uncontested. Minority of the time you need to suck out but you have outs and overlay.

Fold pre twice especially in this type of game with that guy a couple seats to your left. i dont even like post too much, if you hada nutted draw then yea but usually these types of guys don't like folding for a few hundred dollars more but it's definitely better than calling.

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With your effective stack you barely have the implied odds to set mine - calling $50 to win $530. Generally need 10-1 so its very close. Just thought I'd begin here.

But 44 is not always part of a preflop UTG raising range, especially with an aggressive 3-better 2 to your left. If this is a 7-handed game like a lot of other games are right now, then its close to an opening range.

Since it is close for a UTG opening range, it should be one of the first folds to a 3bet, especially since your effective stack barely gets you those implied odds.

OTF, I think its hard to get folds. You're repping 18 nut combos vs a ton of draws. You're getting AK and AQ to fold, unless he has those in spades, and maybe some suited connectors if he 3bets those, (and which fold to a smaller, less risky c/r) but do you think this V thinks his 99+ is pretty good here? No 4bet so your range is condensed, unlikely to have AA, KK, QQ. What is this V worried about with 99+?

Preflop is borderline in full ring. In a tough game I open UTG with {55+,ATs+,KJs+,T9s+,A5s-A4s, AQo+}. In a less aggressive game, I add in 44, AJo, KQo, KTs, QTs, 65s-98s.

With an aggro player on our left, I’d lean fold if it’s 9-handed. If 7-handed, I think it’s still okay to open 44.

Flop is well played.

this is a top 5% flop for your hand...

and we're not really thrilled to get it in, that should say something. like we obviously get it in OTF, but getting 100+BB in OTF with a pair of 4s isn't usually the result we want when we have 44

Pre is really bad. We are burning a lot of money calling the 3b. Especially against the most aggressive player at the table. We are not infinite deep to try to justify. We will have an underpair otf a lot. Or shitty gutshot or bad end of an oesd where we wont get much value if we hit our draw. We are also playing against an opponent that will barrel a lot and we will have no choice but to fold a lot postflop.

I think on the flop we have no choice but to close our eyes and jam even though we dont rep much besides draws because we shouldnt have sets here.

Why shouldn't we have sets? We called with a small pair!

I've played too much poker in my life with people who will NEVER fold a pocket pair...

If hero knows villain is a reg i guess hero must be playing regularly to know that. Im assuming hero is playing somewhat solid and villain should know that too if they play against each other regularly. So villain should think that hero doesnt make too many mistakes pre and that he knows that he shouldnt call a 3b oop with a small pair not being deep enough to set mine. Even though hero did just that. So of course we can have sets here, but we shouldnt.
But maybe im assuming too much

Fold pre

Fold pre

Flop is whatever