so villians has us covered

he opens like 30+ percent of his hands all for 12 dollars.

villians number 2 in small blind he is pretty tight calls

we got the 10s in bb i raise to 35. (i think with how often villians 1 opens i think its a slamdunk 3bet)

villian calls sb folds.

flop 944

we bet 30

villian calls

turn 4

now here i am not quite sure what to do?

if he had a big ace with back door draws i think he would peel one, if he had like a flush draw i think he would peel one, if he had any pair i think he might call flop.

i got to figure i am ahead more than i ain't right?

i make it 45 villian calls

river another 4

hmm

if he called us down with ace high, now he gots the nuts, if he has like pocket 7s or 8's or a set of 9, we can beat that. if he has jacks or queens we might be able to get him to fold.

if we check we are essentially giving up on the pot and have to fold to an all in.

is this a good bluffing spot?

is he folding kings or queens here?

is he ever calling the turn with just ace high?

a btw i check and he shoved river.

Starting stacks? I'm assuming 100bb.

3b to a larger size pre. Flop bet is fine, turn bet is fine.

What a disgusting river. Probably shoving at this point, what a weird spot. It isn't pretty but when the pot gets a certain size and it's a little bit hard for him to have A high I'm going in with the bluff. C/f isn't bad either though. I don't have strong feelings one way or the other on river.

What are the stacks?

Make it 50-55 pre. 35 is way too small.
Flop and turn cbets are fine but i would bet bigger to get max value from smaller pp or a 9.

River is ugly af.
Not sure what to do here. What about a tiny blockbet of 5 or 10% of the pot making it look like a valuebet? If he has an ace he might just call and think he chops. I doubt he would raise here as a bluff and maybe we get better to fold with the tiny bet.

yeah i had 200. i went a small size, because villian is reg and he has folded to 35 3bet from me before (i had kings then, so if he will fold for that size, i don't really see reason to bomb it? like i guess it forces him to play more fit or fold after my flop c-bet but is this like good for us, to force him to play more tight vs are bet?

Your bet sizings are all off. I wouldn't have gotten to river the same way. Stack sizes are relevant too. Recommend including suits with your HHs too

So he opens sort of wide but has a fold to 3bet button. What does that tell us about his range here?

What are you hoping to get value from OTT?

What does he bet turn with if we check it there?

AP we have $90 back in a $220 pot. So if we check call we have to be good 23% of the time which means he has to be bluffing that often because anything he bets for value has us beat. Most villains check back 88 here. I'd check fold river as played.

its a good point, i expect a normal player to fold all their ace highs to the turn bet. so i guess betting denies ace high some equity. its also a tricky amount, because its 45 into a 145 dollar pot, so it might be tempting to call turn with ak.

i guess the answer is i don't really know, what he would call, i mean maybe he calls a-9 suited vs my smallish 3 bet and now i got him trapped or 8s or 7's. its honestly tough to range him. he could obviously be trapping with aces,kings, queens, jacks, trip 9s too.

As played its Check/Fold

PF you are fine 3Betting here, but it needs to be at least $40, if not $45. That extra $5-$10 more than the $35 you chose matters.

OTF, you bet $30 into $80, again way too small. This is a great flop for us, bet needs to be $50/55.

OTT you bet $45 into $140 when you more than likely have the best hand but are vulnerable. Should have been betting about $90.

ok, so lets say we use bigger sizing we make it 42 preflop and 65 on the flop?

obvious i think he would play tighter vs these bets but is this a good thing? it seems like yes we can put him on a tighter range, but why don't we want to put our opponent in tough spots?

it seems like when we bomb it we are only going to be called by hands that beat us or weird gambily calls.

Great questions.

If we had a stronger hand, then you are absolutely correct (but remember there are always exceptions including the need to mix it up). However you're inviting trouble with the small bet sizes. Players at 1/2 are curious and don't like folding on the flop, so we should charge them accordingly.

Better to win a small pot than to lose a larger one getting sucked out on by a weird run out. If he folds PF or OTF, is that even bad? We only have Tens, it's not like we have 2P or a set. And the larger bet sizes are hardly dramatic over-bets that are only getting called by hands that crush you.

ok, so i agree with you guys that the flop bet sizing is bad. it doesn't really force a ton of tough decision (heck i would probally peal with ak in that spot) 50-55 puts him in a much tougher spot with a lot of his hands.

It's more about value than putting people in tough spots. It also sets up future streets better for you given stack sizes. This river spot sucks because you bet turn so small. Your turn bet size would be good in a thin value spot, which this is not.

That said I would have checked turn.

I don't neccessarily like the 3b with 10s preflop because the low stakes live population does not fold and you're likely to go multiway out of position with a medium pocket pair into a bloated pot in which you will only truely be happy if you spike a third ten.

Online standard spot, live I would suggest a flat here.

However if you are going to be 3betting 99-jj from the blinds you really need to size up. I typically 3x +1x for each caller the original opener.

So original opener does 12, + 2 callers I would 36+24 = 60. Set this up as a two street jam.

That leaves a flop bet of 80 and a turn jam of 160. If you get one caller ( assuming you buyin 300)

If you get two callers, jaming all flops except the worst runnout.

i had 200.

many times i would just call with 10s here, i was specifically targeting an aggressive opener with this 3 bet.