Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Hope floats Hope floats

08-20-2015 , 04:54 PM
$1/2

V. is an attractive 30´s Sandra Bullock look alike. Always dolled up, showing cleavage. Plays a lot of tournaments. Super loose pre. Almost ATC in position. Stabby at pots and some reckless postflop aggression. Never gonna bluff raise, but betting a lot when checked to, with whiffed draws, etc. Has decent instincts. Has bluffed hero out of a bunch of large pots in the past after hero checked a later street and then tank folded. Sees hero as nitty ABC. Seen her float tight players a bunch of times in position. Hard to read. Tends to get quiet with big hands but is chatty and will give the speech when she wants a fold. Her value bets and semibluff/bluffs are in the 2/5-1/2PSB range. Definitely can barrel away.

Hero is a 30´s white guy. TAG(fish?). RTM'd to this table about 15min ago due to the large stacks and (relative)lack of regs.

UTG+1 and UTG+2 are loose passives

1/2

Hero($700) opens JJ UTG to $20, 2 callers to immediate left, V calls ($1200ish) on button

($74) Flop: Q76

Hero bets $50 (???) (Everybody fold...please), folded to V who calls.

($173) Turn: 7

Hero??? Plan???
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 05:01 PM
I would call the floor and ask the hand be declared dead. The 7 of diamonds came off twice.

Assuming it was actually the 7h, your'e losing to Q's and 7s, you're beating 88-TT, 89, 45, and other draw-y stuff like 9T, T8.

I'd probably check the turn. If we bet and get called, then it's going to be really expensive on the river to get Qx to fold. If it checks through I'm bombing safe rivers for like $275 and folding to a raise

And if she bets on the turn you say "Put your phone number in the pot and I'll call"
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 05:04 PM
Flop bet looks too thin 4-way. Plus you're OOP. Just give up now.
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 05:22 PM
Check-call, see what happens on the river.
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 06:30 PM
Just my .02$, I would limp-call pre. You're hoping it limps around or that you end up calling a $10 bet and that you have a lot of company seeing the flop. I don't think I could fold JJ UTG but I'm never playing it aggressively.

Check the flop.

Basically this hand is exactly the complete opposite of how I try to play JJ at this point in my poker evolution ... I think of it as 66, with the slight bonus that sometimes you stumble into being the top pair.

BTW, with 66 or JJ in late position I am willing to be extremely aggressive, at times.
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobman0330
Check-call, see what happens on the river.
AP, I like this.

For your flop bet, I don't think you should be betting into this villain on this board if you don't have a plan for how to play future streets, especially if she floats as often as you say.

PF, if you know villain likes to raise IP, and from your description, she seems like the type, then this is pretty easy limp/3bet.
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kookiemonster
Hero($700) opens JJ UTG to $20, 2 callers to immediate left, V calls ($1200ish) on button
When this V is on the button, it's probably a bad idea to make a raise that convinces people you have JJ when you actually do have JJ. I would still raise but I would size it differently, almost certainly smaller. The described Villain, on the button, is going to get into a lot of hands with you and is unlikely to go away postflop. You need to be planning for this from the very first action. I don't know how your postflop plan should be affected, but preflop I'd raise smaller.
Hope floats Quote
08-20-2015 , 11:20 PM
Your read is off... Sandra Bullock is not attractive.


Having said that...

L/r is definitely an option.

As played, stop'n'go.
Hope floats Quote
08-21-2015 , 02:00 AM
Oh jeez these are not fun spots. I see 3 options. Pretty sure they are all okay.

Bet turn. Bet river. Rep AA try to get her to fold KQ.

Check fold.

Check call and soul read.


I would check/fold flop. Sometimes I would check call given V description. These oop guessing game spots are not fun spots to be in and it is fine to try avoiding them IMO, better players will find value for sure but weaker players get killed here. Not calling anyone weak btw just talking generally.

As played I would check call turn and soul read bc V is aggressive and has 88-TT and straight draws a bunch of the time.
Hope floats Quote
08-21-2015 , 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lapidator
Your read is off... Sandra Bullock is not attractive.


Having said that...

L/r is definitely an option.

As played, stop'n'go.
a 30 something Sandra Bullock lookalike shoving cleavage at a poker table? every guy in the room knows where she is sitting
Hope floats Quote
08-21-2015 , 03:49 PM
Not a huge fan of check-calling, if we do x/c turn I think we should lead pretty much any river. What is she usually floating with? Entire range? Only some type of massive draw? Ax?

If she's been exploiting us by floating later streets when we check OTT after c-betting then I'm probably leading out here, especially if we've been x/c or x/f a lot of turns. If she called us with second pair she'll come over the top and we have an easy fold. Board pairing turns are great for getting TPGK to fold after we lead pre/post/ and OTT.
Hope floats Quote

      
m