1/2 game 200BB deep. Bunch of tight older guys and 2 active donks.

This lady had about $400 - $450 and was getting a little out of line. She made it $10 one time and 1 caller, and I 3bet to $40 out of the BB with AdKd and she called - and the other guy called too.

Ts3s2h
I could bet but It just checked through
9d
I check - she bets $55 - asian guy calls I fold
Td
She bets $40 and he calls
She has Ac9c and she is good.

She played a lot of other hands too but I was targeting her because that A9 play was terrible. I'm sure I could of bet that AK hand in this spot but I had no information on what kinds of hands she was calling pre with at the time.


Fast forward an hour

I get A8 in the BB
She makes it $15
Asian guy calls again!
I 3bet to $55 this time

She calls again! and he calls.

236
Fantastic flop - flush draw and 2 overs.

I bet $75
She calls
He calls LOL

Turn 3
I bet $125
She jams
He folds
I snap

River brick ($900 pot)

What hands do you think she has here?

I like her line against both of you in the first hand - and like your 3b even less than I normally would bc of it.

She can have:

All overpairs with a spade
All flushes
All trip 3s
All boats

This isnt interesting

sure it is, you don't see a lot of big hands like this at 1/2

Why are you 3-betting A8s? Would like this much, much better against a wider PFR who can find a fold against a 3-bet. Unless you've seen her in other 3-bet pots, all you know if that she'll call a 3-bet with A9s. That means you can't bluff her off of a better hand here, and hard to imagine you're 3-betting for value.

On the flop, I check a lot here. Asian V in particular has a lot of pocket pairs in his call raise, call 3-bet range, and all of his pocket pairs are a set, an overpair or a pair+GS. If you c-bet, your c-bet should be bigger in 3-way, $165 pot. I'd go between $100-120. You want folds.

On the turn, I guess she can have flushes, trip 3s, straights, boats and maybe overpairs with a spade or 55/44.

so she had aces ok, so fkn what? there is nothing interesting about getting a flush draw in on the turn

yes if she flats AA then 3betting any hand is perfectly fine

it's not unusual to see people badly misplaying AA at 1/2

She ended up having

If I don't 3bet does all the money get in the middle?

Yes, probably. It's flush over flush against someone who seems to call too much.

If you don't 3-bet, there's $45 heading to the flop. You bet 30 and get two callers. There's now $135 OTT when you hit your flush. You bet $100, she has a flush and $350 behind. She's still probably jamming, since that's a $250 raise into a $335 pot once you count her call. Even if she just flats, you can shove river and get called pretty easily.

In any event, the question is pretty result-oriented. Of course if we knew you'd hit a dream flop, we'd say 3-bet. All we know about her before this hand is that she'll call a 3-bet with A9s, and after this hand we know she'll also call with QJs. If that's the bottom of her calling range, she's calling with 10% of all hands and you're a 61/39 dog against her calling range. If that's just the middle of her calling range, she's calling with 20% of all hands and you're still a slight dog, even though that means she's calling with K8s and JTo, both of which are substantially worse hands than you've actually seen her show down with. You're also out of position and facing another villain. Finally, sometimes she has a hand that will 4-bet (say QQ+) and you obviously have to fold in which case your equity doesn't matter. This is a pretty standard flat for me pre.

3bet is fine pre that's about all that is interesting about the hand

she played it fine, you played it fine, not that interesting

Prolly x/jam that flop.

I don't think its a good 3! pre.

Hate the pre flop 3bet.
Like what are we trying to accomplish?

33

Prob not, but from her POV, the only hand you have that beats her is AKss which makes it more of a cooler because you happened to 3b in a spot where you shouldn't be with this hand to begin with.

3bet is bad because this hand wants folds to make it a good re-raise pre. Since we have little fold equity because she calls wide, we get to play against all the hands that have us outkicked which sucks in a bloated pot, especially OOP.