3/5 NL 1k max buyin 6 handed

Hero(650ish) is 30 y/o male wearing a baseball hat. Villain has been at the table for only about an hour and I have had a super tight image since he sat down due to being card dead. But obv he doesn't know this and most likely just sees me as a nit

Villain(1.2kish) Middle to late 30s guy with a Mohawk. Was playing in the 1/2 100 max buyin game and being super loud and boisterous over there before he decided to come play 3/5. He was playing very loose, recently showing a river bluff with K hi. He seems to be drunk and was asking for cocktail service but this establishment stopped serving at midnight. He was basically playing ATC pre. His bets postflop were pretty polarized as I had seen him show up with both the nuts and pure bluffs

On to the Hand..

Cutoff opens to 20. Villain calls. Hero looks down at 108ss in the SB. The cutoff is a good friend who is laggy, and I know he is opening super wide here. I elect to 3bet to 65 given my image and how wide my opponents ranges are here, not wanting to just call pre and play this hand OOP to two aggressive players. Cutoff folds and Villain calls

Flop(150ish) 632ss

As I start to grab for chips debating to bet on the flop, villain starts holding his cards like he's going to muck to any bet, so I lead for 80. He raises to 180. Hero calls

I think he can be doing this with 77-99 type hands where he thinks this flop is good for him or some type of spade draw as well. He could also have 1010/JJ that he played passively pre by just flatting but seems improbable. The bottom of his range is probably some type of A6s type hand. Given he is pretty Laggy he could have some 45 combos, and 22/33/66, but I don't know what percentage of the time he is calling a 3bet with those hands without the cutoff calling to give him odds given my tight image. I decide to just flat and play the turn with about 400 behind

Turn is the Kc(510ish)

Other than a spade, I think this is a great card for my perceived range. He also looked concerned and was surprised by me calling his raise on the flop which made me think he wasn't very strong. After thinking for a bit I decide to shove. I think I have fold equity vs middling pairs and am denying him odds for a flush draw. And worst case scenario have outs against 2pair and sets..

Is this straight spew? Is my thought process good/bad?

I like that you're thinking and have reasons behind your actions but I think I would just have a different plan vs this guy. I think we're maybe assuming a little too much fold equity, but I do think we have big implied odds.

I'd be looking to keep the pot small pre and a lot of check calling vs this specific V. We don't want to bloat the pot OOP with our hand here pre, so I just flat pre.

I also like x/calling the flop and evaluate turn. Getting raised otf sucks pretty bad imo.

Pre is spew and completely pointless at only $65 size. I'd make it at minimum 100 if I felt like being fancy here.

This. I don't like the 3bet preflop with your stack size. You have a hand that plays better multiway when stacks are deep. By 3betting, you get it heads up with a smaller SPR. And if you are going to 3bet, you want to bet big enough to take it down sometimes. $65 is too small to do that.

As played, I think flop is fine. You have equity and the initiative. This is a fine place to cbet. And then once he makes a min-raise, you can't really fold here.

The turn is fine against most villains. It's a great card to bluff and you have lots of equity if called. But I'm not sure I want to be trying to make money running big semi-bluffs against deep-stacked drunk guys. If you've ranged him right (mostly value and draws), then I really don't like a shove. But if you think he's bluffing too much on the flop, then it's not terrible.

Still, though, I like a check/evaluate on the turn. If he shoves, I think you fold. If he makes a smaller bet, you can call and hope to hit. You'll be able to get the rest of his money if the flush comes in.

How much FE do you have against villain? Is he getting to every river or is he folding before that point a lot?

If he is seeing a lot of flops but giving up a lot on the flop then I don't mind preflop and flop. Turn is likely a mistake given his act/raise. A drunk aggro won't give up at that point if he has any part of this.

If he is the sort who doesn't give up before river much then you don't want to be trying to bluff him preflop. You have a good drawing hand OOP and a reasonably cheap flop with deep stacks so just call. If he doesn't give up easily you will make money when you do hit.

Pre should be like 80, that being said your thought process is good but not vs a whaleish player. Again, while I like the thought process vs a couple regs who more likely recognize your image, when this guy is in the hand it's a fold pre. Your fold equity is minimal which is exactly what you want a lot of with T high. I don't like the turn lead either, probably fold if he bets again instead at this stack size.


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Straight spew. Don't try to bluff drunk people. He didn't come to the poker room to fold when he was sober. He's not going to do it now often enough to make this profitable.

Not convinced the drunk guy recognizes or cares about our nitty image enough to ever fold pre. The 3b only makes sense if he's folding to cbets a lot. Otherwise we're getting ourselves into difficult spots OOP vs a loose player with a hand that's usually air or a bluffcatcher. What exactly is our plan to make this approach profitable?

If he's rarely folding pre or to cbets, we should 3b wider for value instead of with hands like T8s.

Hand is spew. Cool preflop bet with a drunk guy playing ATC. That'll get you what you got- a great flop for you and still not really knowing what to do OOP followed by stacking off without a made hand against a guy who likely has little ability to fold.

In theory it's a decent play but not vs this villain. This is just a fold pre. You want to play high cards vs drunk people so i'd be 3betting ATs+ and AJo+ and 88+ for value vs this guy.

Your play would work vs a nit, but you want to 3betting bigger, to set up a nice turn shove.

Given villain description I think it's a mistake to think he has any view of you at all. You said he probably sees you as nitty so it sounds like you are going to run a bluff but vs this type of opponent you should always just have it and never bluff.

Vs normal opponents I like a bigger pfrr but given villain is likely drunk, loose and bluffy we should just fold pre and wait for position.

His apparent ploy on the flop suggests that he has a monster. If he had 77-99 I think he wouldn't do this ploy but if he did he would only call. The ploy plus the raise suggests monster imo.

The acting you describe in the paragraph after the turn comes down also indicates to me he has a monster.

I think you make 2 basic errors, 1) thinking he has an image of you and, 2) playing a weak hand(and running semi bluff) oop in a swollen pot vs this player type.

Pre to $65 = I want to play my ten high multiway OOP in a bloated pot. Not good. If you want to 3bet that, your primary intention has to be to take it down preflop. I'm going anywhere from $95-115. In general, folding's probably best.

AP, flop bet is much too small. I'm probably just shipping against his raise, though, as he has more overpairs than FDs in his range, and given your 3bet pre, I think you have some FE against hands like 88-TT.

AP, I really have no idea what to say for turn. I guess it kinda sorta looks like you were waiting for a safe card to gii with an overpair, but a K is a weirdish card to do that on given action. I probably check/fold, but hope that villain checks in which case you can shove river.

EDIT: just saw villain is drunk, loose, and bluffing a lot. Yes, agree with others. Just spew. Wait for a hand. And jeeez you're immediately to his left ffs. Why make it a point to get involved in the only place where you're OOP, and with T high? Very very bad.

I played with a drunk guy last night. He raised almost every hand from $30-$85 pre. And I folded just about every hand.

Then I saw AcQc in my BB after button straddle. I limped. Other people limped. Villain raises to $85. Folds to me and I make it $385. Villain started hand with about $740. Hero covers. Villain flats the $300 raise. Flop is QQ5. Villain says all-in out of turn, so I check to allow him the opportunity. I call. Villain had T6o, and I scoop (he ended up hitting one of his sixes though).

Your villain's drunk might not be this level of drunk, but this is basically the recipe against these guys. Wait for a hand, and try to get as much money in as possible when you're ahead.

If you're gonna do this kind of thing don't do it from the worst position at the table. Do it from the button or the cutoff. Really though, "High level" thinking/elaborate bluffs aren't the way to make money in low level games and against stupid opponents, especially drunks. Make good hands and value bet them relentlessly. Print money.