1/2 NLH at local card room

Hero ($340): Early 20's, reg in room. Have played a decent amount with villain and he prolly views me as TAG

Villain ($600): 30 yr old asian, reg in room. Definitely LAG preflop and semi-bluffs almost always with big draws, looking to get it in. Money doesn't seem to be an issue for him at all, but he seems to play decently well and not spew too much

Hand History:

Btn straddle to $5
2 callers
Vill calls from MP
Hero raises to $30 with AQo
All fold except Vill who calls

Flop ($75): AcJc8x

Vill checks
Hero bets $40
Vill calls

Turn ($155): 6x
Villain checks
Hero checks

River ($155): Ax
Vill bets $115 after about 10 seconds

Hero???

Im 95% sure he raises flop with combo draws, so there arent that many missed draws in his range. I would not put AK in his range, as he'd raise that pre. Lesser Ax hands are in his limp/call range pre, as well as small-med pairs and suited connecters. Is it terrible to consider folding this river?

Call river. If he had a boat he played it horribly.

You lose to a slowplayed AJ/88/A8s (which an aggro player would have to had slowplayed on a board with multiple draws to show up with here) or exactly A6s. Never folding here.

Closer to a shove than a fold.

Please don't ever fold here.

I'd say he is trying to bet you off hands worse than an A that are beating him more than he ever has an A here let alone a boat. Just call though i don't see him showing up w/ worse if you raise and he calls.

not checking back turn on a total brick

Yeah even if you don't think you can get 3 streets, bet turn/check river is better than the reverse

I'm curious to why you checked turn. I think betting at least two streets here would be better. hitting another ace on the river, it would make sense to even bet again in most cases.

I'm not folding this river, but I'm not raising either.

Do you think villain would play Ax like this? I think that is in his range also, along with missed straight and flush draws. He could view you a weak (not having an ace) in this spot because you under repped your hand by checking the turn and bluffs the river.

I think you check on turn to extract value on river.

And the river can't hurt you, it doesn't improve your hand vs his range (double pair without ace doesn't bet), but is not scary for you.

So, call. I think there's no reason to reraise. Only call.

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I can understand this logic, but we are also allowing draws to see two cards for free when we check.

When they miss we can get bluffs on the river which get value from checking.

Shove all day and feel good about it!

When you have top pair and it turns into trips, your hand doesn't really change. the only thing you beat that you didn't before is bottom 2.

That said, a lot of live players don't know that and would bet weaker Ax on that river whereas they would just check if they didn't hit trips, even though it doesn't strengthen their hand at all.

So for that reason, and also because he probably doesn't have AK limp/calling preflop, I think it's at least a call.

As for shoving, if he's betting Ax then I don't see him folding it for the same reason. Unless you know he's good enough to fold ace-rag (possible if he's a reg, only you can answer that) then shoving is probably best. But if he folds A5- and only calls A6+ and 88, shoving would be -EV.

I think you kinda commit yourself to calling a bet here OTR when you check that turn. You said you had an Ace, then a brick comes OTT and you check? How can he think you have an Ace OTR when you check the turn? In my games, this would be mostly a J OTR who was convinced you completely missed after your turn check. Maybe he thinks you were betting your clubs OTF. Anyway, your hand is so underrepped, I think you gotta call.

OP, be honest:
in play you didnt think too long before calling, didnt you

posts like this really really piss me off
you know yourself its NEVER a fold here and so does everyone on this forum.
but because you called him and he had a boat you're trying to make yourself believe that you can fold the river when 9 x out of 10 you're good here
pointless

One of the main reasons we checked back the turn (the other being pot control) is to snap off induced bluffs. I'm never considering folding this river after checking back the turn.

Gnicehandifyoucalledtheriver,imoG

+1
This is bet/fold turn. If your image is as stated Tag. The lag will not try to steal here. So if raised your good to fold.
If he flats turn you have clear bet on river. He will call with worse alot.

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River is such an easy call...

The only reason to check the turn is to induce a river bet. Still, I would have fired away. You can check the flop for deception but I wouldn't check that turn.

You're not up against Johnny Chan. Call.

I'd call against Johnny Chan too.

I think calling is the best play here. He most likely has a weaker ace. Your only behind AK, AJ, A8, and sometimes pocket 8's. I think Jacks seem less likely as I think this villain type would 3 bet that hand, and maybe AK as well. I don't think shoving accomplishes anything here very often, but it wouldn't be terrible against this player either. Call

Its probably more of a question of shoving or calling than calling or folding.

Bet turn

Sry he had A8

If he had a boat, he got awfully MUBSY. With that said, I wouldn't raise him, since sometimes people do play terribly at 1/2.

Never folding AQ or AK here.