1/2 NL w/$2 BU blind. Hero is mid 20's up a few hundred. Winning image so far. Showed one bluff and has been getting paid off ever since. Playing semi - LAG style imo.

V1($230)- Older hispanic guy. Plays mostly 2/5. Asked him if he was "slumming it up" while waiting for a table and he ignored me. Calls down light but fairly competent.

V2(450)- MABG. Nice and talkative. I've seen him chase all his draws no matter the price and f/river or jam/river if he misses or hits.



OTTH

Hero($680) raises KQ in EP to $12. V1 calls in MP & V2 calls in LP

Flop($41) : JQ10
Hero leads for $40. V1 calls V2 calls.
Turn($161) : 10
Hero *checks*. V1 bets $48 (wtf?) V2 calls. Hero... jams it in.

So before i get flamed or praised (who knows)for how i played this hand, i want to go over a few things and see if i'm going about this the right way.

OTF : What hands are we putting V's on when they flat flop on this wet board? (ill post my thoughts later)

OTT : I checked w/plans to rip if someone bets after seeing the turn card. When V1 bets $48 and V2 calls, i think i still like it even more. (ill gladly elaborate)

But WYD?
Jam>Call>fold? Call>jam>fold

Tell me how you would play this or flame away

Flop sizing is too big imo. Our hand is good but there are many better hands out there. 25-30 should be fine.

Turn: Check is fine, but if i understand correctly, we x/r for 2.5x pot? What are you trying to do, get AT/T9/89 to fold? We have decent showdownvalue and nice redraws. Just call the 48 and see a river imo.

Why are we potting flop? The value your going for is micro thin, and you are OOP.

Smaller bet size will get value from same hands, and more hands. Also doesn't bloat pot as bad.

Turn is bad card for us. And we should check. His bet sizing is bad IMO, and looks weak. But he is obviously committed to pot at this point.

So trying to turn our equity into a bluff is awful. V1 never folding, V2 is never folding. Both could have a full house and we could be drawing dead.

Given the price we are getting. I am calling and gonna see river. Even if we get there. We don't have any easy choices on river.



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Just because he's a 2/5 player doesn't mean he's any good. If he bet $48 into a $160 pot there, I have to wonder just how competent he is.

I would probably bet the turn by default since the 10c gave us a bunch of outs. It's pretty tough to range opponents on a soaking wet flop like this so you're going to get a lot of varied answers and honestly, since you're at the table and you know the villains, you have a better idea of that than we do.

Against two players on a paired board with TPGK and flush/straight draws, shoving is really only a good idea if you have fold equity and I think you're getting called by at least one of these players. I think I'd flat the $48 and see a river.

On the flop? Super wet board that hits all kinds of ranges. Any spade draw, any straight draw, any pair+draw, any QX, most JX, possibly TX, any JX/TX that also has a back door draw. Some random KX that have top OESD and nothing else, possibly some 9X, possibly some AX. Sets and flopped straights are possible but likely raise the flop. It's easier to say what villains shouldn't show up with, two cards both of which are 8 or lower.

Turn play is weird. It's hard to tell without a better read if he has a huge hand that is trying to get you to call/raise or a weak hand making a small probing bet. If he is actually bad he might even have a draw and be trying to get you to call while he bloats the pot.

Against one player I would think the shove is OK. Against 2 the risk you are shoving into a boat or get called by a better hand seem too high.

Are you trying to get them to fold 10x/small boats? Or did you just see a sfd and think lol I'm all in

Yea I can’t imagine too many 10x hands that are floating the flop here to a pot sized bet. If they are it’s a 2 pair hand and I don’t see any of the V’s playing 2 pair this passively. I canceled out all sets b/c I see sets getting raised on this flop given how wet the board is. So after both v’s flat flop and v1 bets this small ott and v2 calls im definitely caping their range to one pair hands and draws/combo draws. With that logic I guess the only question is if I think my hand is good here why jam? There’s a lot of river cards that are bad for my hand or kill the action (spades, face cards clubs even). I’m happy to take the pot down here or get it in with what I see perceive as decent equity vs V’s range or worst case some equity if I do manage to get called. Make sense?