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08-17-2013 , 04:38 PM
You chose the over bet line OTT, now continue (although 1K into a pot of 857 ain't that big an over shove), and shove. Help this poor guy be able to walk to his car alone, ffs.
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08-17-2013 , 05:51 PM
I don't think this villain can find a fold here with a flush. He's inexperienced and he is playing with house money, plus you have a maniac image. I'm definitely shipping it in here. You probably aren't getting paid off for $700 or a shove if he doesn't have a flush or better, so may as well extract max value.
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08-17-2013 , 06:01 PM
I really like shoving this river. Your read is that this villain is very inexperienced with deep play, and you're in a perfect position now to let him make a huge mistake.

On another note in spots like this I base a lot of my decision on raise sizing by physical tells at the table. With rec players I sometimes see whats I call the calling face. They've already decided they're going with the hand regardless of what you bet. Shove and smiles when he shows 55.
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08-17-2013 , 11:21 PM
C betting the flop seems pretty bad 4 way with an A out there. Really liked the turn sizing, coulda been the pot but that is nit picking. The fact that V lead out on the river seems like a gift as we weren't sure if we could play for stacks. With your image the 3rd nuts is the nuts like said above take shove be will never see it coming. He is still winner in the game so I doubt he is ever making a big fold. I was even thinking of adding in some sort of verbal comment as be is inexperienced and it may give him that extra incentive to call.
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08-17-2013 , 11:41 PM
You guys do realize the thread is a year old, right?
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08-18-2013 , 12:00 AM
bet 3/4 pot on turn. bet 1/2 pot on river.
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08-18-2013 , 12:54 AM
Sick bump.

Cbetting flop at described table is lighting money on fire.

On turn 2/3 sounds good, with the intention of a biggish riverbet if called.

On river you have absolutely luck boxed, he's either ******edly slow played 5x or A5, or backdoored a flush (more likely) Either way he's never folding, shove.

Also as an aside to some of the comments...just because someone has a huge run up from a min buy doesn't mean they are scared money, I see this happen all the time where folks try to apply pressure to these guys. On the contrary, they are "only in for $200 yo!"
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08-18-2013 , 02:33 AM
Decent flop check.

200 OTF. Small stack ships or folds. If he ships, get ready for everybody to come along. RESHIP if possible.
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08-18-2013 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
You guys do realize the thread is a year old, right?
LOL let me have my fun!
The concept is still interesting to me. On the rare occasions when I'm way ahead in a hand, I want to get max value.
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08-18-2013 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Also as an aside to some of the comments...just because someone has a huge run up from a min buy doesn't mean they are scared money, I see this happen all the time where folks try to apply pressure to these guys. On the contrary, they are "only in for $200 yo!"
When I started playing, mountains of chips intimidated me. I quickly realized that a 7 buyin stack did not correlate to skill at a low stakes table.

Now I drool at the sight of those mountains of chips, because get, that guy with the sexy stack might just be as dumb as me

I've seen tons of big stacks get felted over the course of the game. I've punted off a few stacks, myself so I know it can happen quickly :/
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