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Help, AA multiway on 10 high flop getting 6:1 w/ BDFD Help, AA multiway on 10 high flop getting 6:1 w/ BDFD

11-30-2018 , 09:51 AM
$1/2 - standard loose passive table. Very ABC.
2 limps to Hero ($600) w/ AsAd, makes it $15 (standard for me based on 2 limpers and position).
BTN calls, blinds fold, UTG limper calls (YWG, $113). MP calls (75yo. Woman, reg. Very ABC, $400)
Flop ($58)
10s7d3s
UTG, MP checks, H leads for $45 as a value bet. BTN folds, UTG goes all in for $98, MP calls extremely quickly. It’s $53 to me into $299. Obviously i’m Not at all concerned about the short stack. I guess MP could have an over pair. Should not have much flush draw as I have the As. The shorty did reopen the betting. Hand is too strong to fold getting 6:1 but too weak to raise given MP check/call of the AI, correct? It’s rough though because I probably only have 2 cleans out or runner/runner spades.
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11-30-2018 , 12:15 PM
Would MP flat with a set here? Does she have an IPAD?

Most ABC older women at Hollywood would be raising with 2 pair or sets here IMO. I am inclined to ship it here. My guess is the short stack will have the better hand.
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11-30-2018 , 12:21 PM
The quick call by MP generally means a draw. I'd shove the rest for value and be happy if I got called.
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11-30-2018 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thin_slicing
Would MP flat with a set here? Does she have an IPAD?

Most ABC older women at Hollywood would be raising with 2 pair or sets here IMO. I am inclined to ship it here. My guess is the short stack will have the better hand.
MP is a white older lady, not the older Asian lady with the IPAD I assume you’re thinking off. I believe MP is flatting a made hand here. I don’t think she has any raising range in this spot, none at all. I assume she has a set, maybe K’s or Q’s but I don’t think she’s drawing, largely because I block As from AKs and AQs.
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11-30-2018 , 12:46 PM
this board is wet and somewhat connected, I am probably shoving here; could MP have some hands that crush AA here? sure , but there's a lot of stuff that AA is way ahead of here like TX hands , SD's , FD's , combo draws, maybe even JJ or QQ if they don't 3! those pre ; Idk if she is limping pf with TT+ so maybe over pair is unlikely here, and you do reduce her FD combos by having As ; I think I'm still ripping this one in
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11-30-2018 , 01:34 PM
I mean, you need to go with your read. You are at the table. Personally, I gii here, but if your read is that she is not drawing and probably has a made hand, call and evaluate. That's the beauty of position.
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11-30-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
I mean, you need to go with your read. You are at the table. Personally, I gii here, but if your read is that she is not drawing and probably has a made hand, call and evaluate. That's the beauty of position.
My read was about 90% of the time I’m going to need an A or running spades to bail me out. Other 10% i’m Ahead. Can anyone here find a fold for the additional $53?
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11-30-2018 , 01:56 PM
Folding would be really difficult, but with your read, it's not crazy and is probably correct.

How aggressive will she be on a "blank" turn?
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11-30-2018 , 02:35 PM
You can't fold the flop, that would just be disastrous. BUT, reevaluating on the turn is definitely recommended, and see if you can get her to check it down. But you can't EVER fold the flop. You're getting way too good a price.
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11-30-2018 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Folding would be really difficult, but with your read, it's not crazy and is probably correct.

How aggressive will she be on a "blank" turn?
I assume i’ll Get a free river as she’s done nothing but call so far and is surely expecting me to fire again in position on the turn.
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11-30-2018 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyAIC
You can't fold the flop, that would just be disastrous. BUT, reevaluating on the turn is definitely recommended, and see if you can get her to check it down. But you can't EVER fold the flop. You're getting way too good a price.
I really felt like folding was proper. It just couldn’t talk myself into it.

H flats the AI

Turn $352
6s

MP checks
H? I now have the NFD going to river, but any flush draw got there already and a wonky 89 got there. Even picking me up the equity turn is an obvious check back, playing pot control with 1 pair at this point, correct?
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11-30-2018 , 02:57 PM
I check back vs. described player. If she has a fold button, you can bet enough to take her all in, but if she's sticky and won't believe you, just check.

Also, given that she's passive, calling flop is fine.
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11-30-2018 , 03:45 PM
trust your read. And she is not folding better hands. I am more than happy to check back. Plus she could have flush if your wrong. Plus main pot you are likely behind now.

Check realize equity. And evaluate river
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11-30-2018 , 04:01 PM
She most likely has QQ or KK. Make it 175 over the shorty. If she confidently shoves, fold. If she pause shoves, call.
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11-30-2018 , 11:35 PM
H checks back the turn

River $352
10c

MP leads for $100. H mucks A’s, MP shows pocket 3’s beating UTG’s flush.
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12-01-2018 , 06:18 PM
Seems about right. At least you know how to play against her. Pretty easy villain to have.
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