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01-11-2014 , 07:06 AM
Hand 1
2/5nl

Hero has ~$750 and is in bb with 78

Villain has ~$700 and is in cut-off. Villain is TAG/nitty middle-age man. He is probably small winning player. Plays mainly ABC straight forward. Skill lvl 5 out of 10.

Action:
Utg open raises to $15, Villain calls $15, Hero calls $10.

Flop TJT ($47) 3-players
Hero checks, Utg bets $20, Villain raises to $60, Hero check-raises to $130, Utg folds, Villain calls $70.

Turn 3 ($327) 2-players
Hero bets $250, Villain raises all-in to $485 total, Hero calls.

Villain tables A9

Thoughts:
-I definitely should have folded the flop. Playing a big pot on this paired board is horrendous, and I could be dead.
-I could lead this flop and the hand probably plays very differently.
-When the Villain raises the flop I'm thinking his range is something like KJ, AJ, 9T, QT, KT, AT, KcQc. I expect him to always fold his top pair hands, and continue will any decent 10.
-When he calls, I plan to play a small pot on any club 9 or higher. I'm check-folding blanks, and getting it in on small clubs.

What would you do on the flop? Is even the pre-flop call bad?
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01-11-2014 , 07:43 AM
Preflop is definitely fine.
It seems pretty gross but probably folding the flop. I don't think described villain is raise/folding too much here and you're obv not in great shape against his raising range.
Turn play is fine I guess, but I don't really think he calls with worse, I mean is he stacking off with a ten here?
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01-11-2014 , 08:28 AM
If you're not sure about your reads/general abilities to outplay your opponents post flop out of position, then pre should be a fold. Here you weren't able to read that the nitty middle aged man isn't raise/calling the flop and then raising the turn without a hand that beats a rather small flush on a paired board; to me this means you shouldn't be playing that speculative of a hand out of position since you are very vulnerable to reverse implied odds situations vs these opponents.
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01-11-2014 , 09:25 AM
We'd have to know more about UTG to say for sure, but preflop should be a clear fold OOP.
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01-11-2014 , 09:50 AM
If V is straight forward why would you check/3-bet the flop?
He is only raising with nut fds + trips.

Folding flop is best imo.

I'd fold preflop til you improve a bit with your postflop skills. Then squeeze unless UTG has a ridiculously tight opening range.
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01-11-2014 , 10:17 AM
FWIW I agree you really butchered this hand post flop. I do understand that you believed you could win a big pot from trip Ts.
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01-11-2014 , 11:05 AM
With no reads on UTG, I think this is a fold pre.

When the nitty player raises, I think this is a fold as you aren't closing the action
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