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Hand I got a lot of **** for, not sure what to do. Hand I got a lot of **** for, not sure what to do.

11-16-2013 , 02:46 PM
A couple of days ago at a £1/£1 table, standard for the casino I played at (3 or 4 bad regs, one good one and the rest punters) and I have >£200 in front of me after doubling up with an AA v AQ pf ai hand. I've been playing quite LAG-ish up until now but I have made a couple of folds to the Villain's 3-bets (and this is his image of me).

Villain is a middle-aged chinese man (poor English skills) but also a reggish player. Quite spewy but also tricky in spots and some of his aggression is well timed. He has >£300 in front of him after buying in for the max and losing some of it.

Anyway, A K dealt to me in CO. Villain UTG+2. 4 limps around to me and I make it £9, 3 calls and villain raises to £39-one call (~£300 bad reg) all the other limpers fold. I contemplate 4-betting here but flat call (first contentious move).

Pot: (£150)

Flop: 8 10 10

Villain takes all of 2 seconds to over-bet shove, double-fisted and everything.

Other caller folds.

Hero?

(Hint: I got a lot of **** from the regs on the table for making the move I did because of villain's perceived range).
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11-16-2013 , 02:49 PM
Was there any difference in sizing between this 3-bet and the ones you folded to previously?
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11-16-2013 , 02:49 PM
borderline he could of had a small pair which you have proper odds to call against
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11-16-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
Was there any difference in sizing between this 3-bet and the ones you folded to previously?
Yes, this was quite a bit bigger. The other 3-bets were standard and after opens from LP (£18 from £6 f.ex).
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11-16-2013 , 03:03 PM
Fold. Huge 3 bet looks like middle/small pair. Range includes AT. Strange shove here, if V has shown some ability previously. Doubt you're good now, and with only back door str/fd's, your 6 outs (k's and a's) would be in other callers range. 3-1 close to your equity, but still a muck for me.

Last edited by odiugz; 11-16-2013 at 03:13 PM.
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11-16-2013 , 03:07 PM
Textbook fold preflop to his limp 3 bet. Calling pre and then doing anything other than folding to the shove would again be a real poor choice.
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11-16-2013 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeedz
Yes, this was quite a bit bigger. The other 3-bets were standard and after opens from LP (£18 from £6 f.ex).
That makes it far more likely that this is not a move and he is going for value hoping that you take a stand against him. Folding preflop is not out of the question here, and there's nothing wrong with folding the flop either. I don't think I ever would have called preflop though--I'd be 4betting or folding.
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11-16-2013 , 03:14 PM
I didn't consider folding pre-flop, maybe I should have but here's why I didn't. The guy had played around 10 hands/30. He'd limped-raised a couple of times before and shown down all sorts of ridiculous ****. Anyway. Thanks for the input. I'll think about folding more in this spot.

Result:

Spoiler:


I contemplate calling for 2 minutes or so, I then fold. He immediately shows me K-5 off when I fold and tells me he did it because he knew I was going to fold anyway. I got **** from the regs at the table for folding here against him and that I should have called in a second

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11-16-2013 , 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeedz
I didn't consider folding pre-flop, maybe I should have but here's why I didn't. The guy had played around 10 hands/30. He'd limped-raised a couple of times before and shown down all sorts of ridiculous ****. Anyway. Thanks for the input. I'll think about folding more in this spot.

Result:

Spoiler:


I contemplate calling for 2 minutes or so, I then fold. He immediately shows me K-5 off when I fold and tells me he did it because he knew I was going to fold anyway. I got **** from the regs at the table for folding here against him and that I should have called in a second






That info. would be important to give in the OP. If you had, I would say for you to jam preflop "almost" allin, leaving maybe $35 behind in your 100bb stack. That looks stronger. But folding would be out of question as well as calling out of question too.
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11-16-2013 , 03:21 PM
Yeah I should have posted that info before, hasty OP though. Sorry about that. Thanks for your learned input. Also, it was >200bb v >300bb at £1/£1.
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11-16-2013 , 03:31 PM
Given the new information, calling preflop commits you to calling the flop. You played this hand the worst way possible.
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11-16-2013 , 03:36 PM
Think this is a shove pre and not even close
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11-16-2013 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeedz
Yeah I should have posted that info before, hasty OP though. Sorry about that. Thanks for your learned input. Also, it was >200bb v >300bb at £1/£1.
Im not used to 1/1 so sorry bout that. At 200bb i would still 4 bet to approx. $95 / call. I 4 bet to an amt. too large for him to flat, yet small enough that he may spew AQ over me since he knows i am after him possibly.
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11-16-2013 , 04:07 PM
Fold. Sucks because he probably has air given your OP. Maybe 22-99 or even jj+

But I don't playing air vs air for stacks.

Let him have it, pick a better spot.
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11-16-2013 , 04:26 PM
I think his 3bet size is pretty standard considering there were 4 limps, you raise 9x and there are 3 callers before he acts. To a normal villain, limp raising from early position is usually extreme strength, but since you say that he has been limp raising with trash this is an obvious shove. Pot is already over 100 when it gets back to you preflop. You are destroying his range. Get it in.
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