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04-23-2014 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ryno19
Curious why you think turn bet is too large? Hero bet $50 into a $72 pot.
I guess he could C/C the turn. That might be better considering he called the flop and is a LAG. If he missed his flush on turn, do you think he will bet out? Or raise your bet? These are questions you get from playing with him. I still think the 50$ turn bet is okay, but a C/C might do the trick, but give him a chance to hit his draw. He very well might have an A3, A4, type hand and hit two pair. I don't see why he would raise all in on the turn unless he had one of those combos.

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04-23-2014 , 03:30 PM
Fold pre- or raise to clear limpers out.

I would fold pre
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04-23-2014 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bweezy90
I guess he could C/C the turn. That might be better considering he called the flop and is a LAG. If he missed his flush on turn, do you think he will bet out? Or raise your bet? These are questions you get from playing with him. I still think the 50$ turn bet is okay, but a C/C might do the trick, but give him a chance to hit his draw. He very well might have an A3, A4, type hand and hit two pair. I don't see why he would raise all in on the turn unless he had one of those combos.

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Regardless of what v had...or anything else about this hand for that matter, I'm just curious why that one poster feels $50 into a $72 pot is too large and spewy...seems like the standard sizing to me
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04-23-2014 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gjpure

Hero limps on button after several limpers with Qh9d.

please tell me the best decision on this hand and why.
Fold pre.

Our hand has a lot of RIO problems, especially so when we play it for Top-Pair.
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04-23-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ryno19
Regardless of what v had...or anything else about this hand for that matter, I'm just curious why that one poster feels $50 into a $72 pot is too large and spewy...seems like the standard sizing to me
I agree it's not spewy. It's standard.

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04-23-2014 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaNEWPr0fess0r
Why even bother opening threads if you are going to stop reading them when someone makes a "bad" play? That's why this forum exists right?
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
Stopped reading here. Fold pre. 3-bet > limping although I don't even like a 3-bet with Q9o.
I think I gave some solid pf advice. Discussing post flop is going to hurt OP because he should never even be in that situation. So talking about it will just make him think those spots happen a lot, it's time wasted on spots that should never occur.
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04-24-2014 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
I think I gave some solid pf advice. Discussing post flop is going to hurt OP because he should never even be in that situation. So talking about it will just make him think those spots happen a lot, it's time wasted on spots that should never occur.
This is atrocious advice. This spot is almost exactly the same as if Hero had limped the button with J9, a play very few people here would advise against. Postflop is still important even if preflop is a mistake.

I agree with the advice that we should have kept betting in a heads-up pot, but in a multiway pot it is too dangerous. I actually want to give up here, or at least see a cheap showdown, after seeing 3 flop callers. Anyone could be slowplaying, anyone could have turned aces up, anyone could have just hit top pair with their nut flush draw...it doesn't have to happen all the time. It just has to happen enough of the time that the bet isn't profitable. And it's more likely the more opponents there are.

If we are ahead, this bet is thin because so many rivers will lose us the pot (and maybe even another bet), but if we are behind we are throwing money away. This is also less of an issue heads-up because the turn bet will be smaller in relation to the flop bet.

Overall, this is a bad turn spot and I'm not crying over missing thin value here by checking back.
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04-24-2014 , 02:46 AM
Basically, here's my view, this scenario happened to me tonight, I had Q9o OTB and 4 limpers in front....I folded...but it made me think of this post again.

If I chose to play this hand the way op played it, I would have bet flop same way, but when I got all those callers, I would have given up... It was a good effort, but there is just way too many hands that beat us 4 ways. Don't invest any more money with this hand. If 1 v would have called, that's different, but multiway,... Get out
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04-24-2014 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Fold pre.

Flop bet is likely ok.

Check the turn.

Fold to the shove.
This^^^

However you never states hero's image. If its tight then I raise a good amount to iso then I c-bet, since you said table is fit or fold. I would never limp here with Q9o vs fit or fold.
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04-24-2014 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CallMeVernon
This is atrocious advice. This spot is almost exactly the same as if Hero had limped the button with J9, a play very few people here would advise against. Postflop is still important even if preflop is a mistake.
I advise against over-limping otb every day off the week and twice on Sunday. Just ""bah!"
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