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07-23-2015 , 11:03 AM
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Hero (~$900): Winning, aggressive image. 20s white male.

V1 (~$400): Been targeting this guy for the last 2 hours. Probably about 45, white guy. If I had to guess, he is probably running like a 70 vpip, 30 pfr. Bluffs too much, and it's obvious to everyone at the table.

V2 (~$250): Late 20s maybe white guy, glasses, was talking local politics with another player at the table he was friendly with. A regular who I don't have much history with. Limps too much. Saw him limp from LP at least 3 times. Hasn't done much pre flop raising or post flop betting in the hour or so he's been at the table.

OTTH:

V1 limps in MP.
I'm to his direct left and limp behind with 46 because everyone to my left is playing super nitty and I don't expect it to be iso'd too often.
V2 raises to $18 in the SB.
V1 calls.
I call.

Flop ($52): Q25

V2 bets $27
V1 folds
Hero ?
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07-23-2015 , 11:44 AM
Folding to the $18 is my standard, fwiw, and is probably correct here as well, unless V2 was deeper. Dynamics with V1 were my main focus at the time, however.
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07-23-2015 , 11:45 AM
I think it's a fold or raise pre, not a call.

AP, I think I raise up to 100-135 and try to induce him to put his stack in or fold the flop. Maybe I'm beat but I'm going to make him be put to the test and I still have a lot of outs unless I'm drawing dead you know?
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07-23-2015 , 12:16 PM
I don't mind the call pre, but folding is fine also.

Vs a player who hasn't been raising, I doubt you have much fold equity. I would play this straightforward: call the flop and see a turn in position with as much money behind as possible. No matter what happens, on the turn, if they check, make a 1/2 or 2/3 pot bet.
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07-23-2015 , 12:31 PM
Preflop is fairly meh. This hand is just a little too trashy for me wanting to be the first overlimper in MP. And calling the raise just going 3way (albeit in position) is pretty meh too.

What's a tightish guys raising range out of the blinds? Does it include JJ/TT, or are these often just limped here? Anyhoo, I'd probably raise. If he has JJ-, there's a decent chance he'll fold. If he has a whiffed AK/etc., he will fold. If he has AA/KK/AQ/etc., he's probably not folding, but he might give us a free card on the turn (which I would take). QQ is the worse possibility but we're still drawing live even in this case (and would a set bet this smallish on this drawy a board?).

ETA: Just realized he's only got about $200 left and pot is $75. If we're going to raise, I'm guessing the only raise is a shove. Still, I don't hate that as we're ~50/50 against a lot of hands and have FE against a bunch of them.

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07-23-2015 , 12:51 PM
Fold preflop, hes not nearly deep enough for u to call a 9bb raise. Raise the flop to kick out hands that haven't hit that have equity, like ak. Or an underpair, we don't mind getting it in also if 3bet. Although calling us not wrong as u get perfect odds
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07-23-2015 , 01:31 PM
The stack size is really why I like a 100-135 raise here. Call just seems odd because it is such a strong draw, I'm probably not folding the turn for the pot size because we may get lucky on the river either way.

I also like the min raise here.
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07-23-2015 , 01:35 PM
I think l/c is fine with a spewy 70/30 player.

OTF I think V2 probably has +Qx and air. Hes probably going to check his air on the turn so you can call here getting decent odds and will be able to semi-bluff alot of turn cards here.

great spot really with the Qc on flop so there are fewer dominated FDs you will run into.

Flop bet sizing also seems kind of small indicative of a bluff.
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