€1-€2 NLHE with an optional €5 straddle either UTG or Mississippi €5 on the button straddle (The Mississippi straddle is more popular in this cardroom - 50%+ of the hands are straddled on the button)

We are playing €400 with a range of stacks at the table between €150 - €900.

We are playing 8 handed. Its €1-€2 with the button straddling for €5, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds and UTG+1 opens to 15. We are in MP with AQs and decide to call having previous 3b twice in similar spot with AQ, LP also calls and its three to the flop.
Flop of J 10 4 with 2 hearts so we flop nut flush draw and inside straight draw to broadway, original raiser checks - I now decide to lead for 35, button calls and original raiser folds. The turn is a J and as first to act I lead for 75 which gets raised to 175. Not much info on this guy, he bought in for 220 and made a big deal of it and after two orbits had about 450 euro, seems to play a lot of hands but in the couple of orbits has chipped up but don't recognise him.

Anyways we call and the river brings the K of d.

Thoughts on turn sizing and action? Thoughts on river?

Will post this in a more digestible format and post up here again

I don't think you had a good reason for just calling pre-flop. You're opening up the possibility of playing a multi-way pot which weakens your premium hand considerably; it's very common to have 4 or 5 way single raised pots at these stakes, but much less common to have multi-way 3-bet pots. I wouldn't flat even if folded around to me in LP or in the blinds, but the fact that you were in MP waaaay increases the risk of having a 5-way pot where the only thing you can do when you miss 2/3rds of the time is check/fold.

Also, there's nothing bad about being seen as 3-betting often when you actually are 3-betting premium hands dealt in quick succession. Next time you 3-bet with a premium hand, you might get more action.

As played, obvious jam on the river. Villain is never folding here with a stack less than the size of the pot; he most likely has a J. And if he has a boat, well you're never folding either. There's no sizing decision here; obvious all-in bet.

How is this a gross spot?

Thanks for the reply. I take you point on 3 betting but I do mix in some calls with AQs into my game. If I had to guess I would say 70% 3b 30% flat in this spot. Most of the time I would likely 3b against an unknown opponent but in this particular instance I decided not to. I was at the end of MP and we were 8 handed from memory.

The turn raise does ring major alarm bells against a guy who bought in short. I did indeed jam river with broadway and he slowrolled me with J4s. In fairness I have now idea how he has J4s here but he did

Your point remains valid though that if I 3b he doesn't call lol

Gross spot I guess I hadn't elaborated as I got stacked just after reloading and the slowroll. Plus jamming the river I nearly feel dead due to the min turn raise

I don't mind calling pre, sometimes. At lower stakes, people often limp their weaker hands so 3betting stuff like AQ isn't the slam dunk it might be at higher stakes or, irrespeguardless of stakes, in a game where people mostly open raise.

Maybe I'm some kind of pervert, but I actually LIKE multiway pots with a hand like AQ suited. There are a few reasons, but one is that Vs make a lot more mistakes than I do regarding position and pot size.

Betting the turn with this hand can't be too bad, but I think that top pair pairing is the time to check. You are drawing dead to several hands, though I wouldn't have given J4 much weight. So getting all the money in now ain't great. It's also harder to get people to fold something like a T or 99. You have better showdown value than almost all of his draws.

You're still check calling when he bets the turn here and still getting stacked when you hit. But you won't get stacked when you miss and you'll often get paid when you hit by hands like KQ, worse FDs and trip jacks.

snap 3b pre

you've been 3-betting more recently so that's even a better reason to 3-bet when you have a premium, they'll fight back by defending weaker hands.

Lol, yes you are some kind of pervert!

Sure AQs has good nuttish potential and plays better multi-way than AQo, but so many flops give negate the suitedness of your hand immediately and leave you with just your high card strength. I'd much rather thin the field and try to win without needing the suited part of AQs.

I like your explanation about checking the turn; agree completely.