Hi guys, I've been reading alot of topics on 2plus2 but have never posted anything ever. I think posting my hands which somehow are still mysteries might help me to have a broader view on these hands. Thanks for help in advance !

I am currently playing 1/3 live in a casino atm. This is a hand i've just played 20 mins ago

Hero ( 400$ Stack ) UTG+2 playing solid raise 20$ With AhAc

Vil ( 400$ ) MP ( super TAG reg )3bet 55$ ,
Everyone folded, back to me . I tanked and flat call ( Reason is we do have play against each other for months , almost everytime I 4bet he folded pre. I try to mix it up this time )

Flop comes : QsQd 9d , i checked . He checked behind
Turn comes 10d, i decided to bet out 75$ , he snapped shove all in. I spotted that he looked down his cards to double check . I was not sure whether it was a
"Tricky double check" or he did check if he had a diamond in his hand.
I opened fold my hand since I did nt beat much on turn .
I put him on QQ (less likely he shove turn with this hand )1010 or AQ , AdKd , AdAs
The only few hands I would beat him with this specific player's super tight 3bet range are Kk or JJ.
Did I make a good fold ? Please share your thoughts

$160 pre and stuff all flops.
AP $75/f otf
AP c/f or bluff catch but mostly fold.
AP fold.

OOP w/ awkward SPR and without initiative is the nut low way to play AA.

Just 4bet OOP.

Uh what

If we bet 2/3rds pot on flop and get reraised by V, then we can't realistically continue here. Villain is going to show up with Q a lot more often than not.

What did u try to accomplish by leading out the turn oop where straight completed? If you decided to slowplay AA, you should check the turn also after checking flop. Also, both of you only have 100bb I will 4bet this to $150 most of the time don't need to play tricky cause both of you aren't deep stacked.

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Get tricky with 56s on the button. AA PF, keep betting till he calls, or folds.


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Pre: 4bet to $120. Keep your 4bets small and enticing. And if he really folds more than 70% of the time against 4bets, then start 4bet bluffing with A3s.

As played, you should be checking the turn. This is an awful runout for your hand, combined with the fact that your plan is to slowplay, so stick with that.

You should x/call turn and x/call most river bets. I hate betting the turn here.

If we 4-bet to $120, MDF for villain is 79/(79+100) = 44%. If he's only defending 30%, then we can 4-bet ATC against him profitably and should never fold to his 3-bet.

If villain is really folding to 4-bets so much then it's fine to flat, but it's easily possible he was just at the bottom of his range the other times you 4-bet him. As played fold without the Ad I guess.

I wouldn't lead the flop, but if we do and get raised I'm GII, not folding. We can expect him to show up with AdKd/KK/bluffs often enough to be profitable without much money behind.

At my loose aggro tables with non-shortish stacks (like here), I'd lean towards limp/reraising preflop.

As played, I'm fine with the flat, especially if this taggish guy sees us as tight and will fold to a 4bet often. We'll setup a trivial stack off SPR of 3.5 where we'll be able to get stacks in just 2 postflop streets if need be, even OOP. There is some risk (flopped high cards might scare us or him) and he might not put in as much money postflop on a whiffed big Ax that he would preflop, but I think it's fine. If we're worried about outplaying ourselves postflop (which we possibly ended up doing), nothing wrong with simply taking down this pot now and moving on.

Not a great flop since we can both easily be scared into not playing for stacks. I'm cool with playing in flow and checking.

As played, I'd probably check the turn. So far, this is a horrendous run-out for both the chances of being up against a better hand and the reduced likelihood of being payed off by worse.

Kinda a weird spot facing the shove since you'd doubt fullhouses would likely play it that way. And we could easily play a Q this way, so you'd think hands like KK/JJ wouldn't shove. With this SPR we probably shouldn't fold preflop, although this is a pretty meh board and there are few hands that think they are shoving for value that are behind. If I'm folding (which I don't hate), I wouldn't show (if wanting to know the other hand, I'd probably tap the table and say "nice bluff" after folding and that will often get your opponent to show).

GcluelessNLnoobG

SPR in this case is ~3.5, which is *awesome*, not awkward. And not having initiative in this case is also awesome, as it keeps in his bluffing while all the while underrepping our hand immensely (he could easily commit with worse in this case thinking he's best, while if we 4bet he's not nearly as likely to). Being OOP sucks, sure, but the smaller the SPR the less we are concerned with that.

The preflop result is totally fine and arguably one of the best results we could get, imo (apart from him calling a 4bet, which according to OP sounds unlikely). We just got a horrific runout, that's all.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I don't understand your logic on not 4betting. You said he has a super tight 3b range, so why wouldn't you want to 4b and get shoved on by KK or QQ? This guy folds to any 4b unless he has exactly AA?

I'm not even saying the flat pre was a poor play by any means if you knew you were closing the action heads up, but your reason for not putting in a 4b is made illogical in the latter statement about his 3b range.

This doesn't add up to me. If we set up a "trivial stack-off SPR" w/AA pre, then why do we care about the board? Why are we not bombing the flop? The resulting SPR and being OOP are the only reasons this is a thread in the first place.

Tnooffence,youareprobablymyfavoriteposterD

Any big card paired flop like this is just unlucky, but unfortunately it happens, and then we have to re-adjust our thinking as to the best way to get the money in (and whether we even want to get it in). Yes, with an SPR of 3.5 (which is awesome for this hand) we'll feel committed on most boards and will want to work towards getting in stacks (either by betting ourselves or having our opponent do that for us). This unfortunately just ain't that board. If we start betting or raising or whatever on this board, all we typically end up doing is getting worse to fold and better to call.

GimoG

OP, you played this perfectly. NH. GG. On to the next hand.