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05-03-2017 , 01:55 PM
1/2 ~1AM Tuesday night.

Table is filled with weak passive players with the exception of one kid who is doing his best Tom Dwan impression. He jumps on any perceived weakness regardless of what's going on in the hand or at the table. He also may have some sort of bet sizing tell. Small is weak etc. He reminds me of this guy I used to work with at the golf course. He was on psyche meds, had a 5 year old, lived in a house on the course grounds with 5 other pot heads, and had no social skills at all. He was the epitome of someone who had smoked himself ******ed in the words of Dave Chapelle. That guy's name was Brian. He has ~$220.

Hero: Probably a pretty snug image. I had taken a big pot of a whale earlier for fat value. I 3 bet Brian's open and whale's call with 99 to get there so maybe he views me as not standard. I have everybody covered.

The rest of the table was random and nondescript. Everyone has between 50-100bb.

Preflop: 4 limps to me in SB with 82 and I complete. I then immediately begin cutting my arm due to the shame I know I'll feel after I post the hand to the forum. BB checks.

Flop: 842 ($12)
Hero?
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05-03-2017 , 01:57 PM
8
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05-03-2017 , 01:58 PM
Fold pre. AP, bet $15.
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05-03-2017 , 02:06 PM
This is a spot where I do weird stuff... Like I might bet $20 or more on the flop, then (if called) bet only half pot or so on turn, then bet really big on the river.

I just feel like 99-JJ are never folding to $20-25 otf. 56, 35 are never folding. A8 or worse 8s might stay in. Even A3, A5, 57, 67 might stay in. Depending on table, we might even get wider calls - 2nd or 3rd pair with BDFD or whatever.
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05-03-2017 , 02:14 PM
Lead this for $10. Your hand is almost sure to be the best hand right now but it isn't the nuts and somewhat more fragile then it looks. The board is very dry so checking the flop is OK. You can check/call flop and go for value on later streets. The mistake would be trying to check/raise on such a dry flop.

In general these bad two pair hands play well heads up but get dangerous against a crowd, this specific example has a super dry board so the risks are reduced.
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05-03-2017 , 02:24 PM
$10
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05-03-2017 , 02:24 PM
Lead $15. Slightly bigger than pot but no one cares in these limped pots.
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05-03-2017 , 02:31 PM
Actually where is Brian compared to the other limpers?
If he's in LP it could be sexy to fps it up here and lead something like $5, let a few people call, then have Brian do our heavy lifting and pop it to $30 - $45, then we can 3bet to $125 and steal some of his hard earned money.

Plus it'll tilt him to no end to raise/fold. He might even shove which we would snap off.
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05-03-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Actually where is Brian compared to the other limpers?
If he's in LP it could be sexy to fps it up here and lead something like $5, let a few people call, then have Brian do our heavy lifting and pop it to $30 - $45, then we can 3bet to $125 and steal some of his hard earned money.

Plus it'll tilt him to no end to raise/fold. He might even shove which we would snap off.
I'd go $6 if I'm trying to induce.
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05-03-2017 , 02:41 PM
Take the lead. $10-$15
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05-03-2017 , 02:57 PM
Flop: 842 ($12)
Hero bets $8. 3 calls to Brian on the Btn. Brian raises to $20. Hero?
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05-03-2017 , 03:00 PM
all-in
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05-03-2017 , 03:05 PM
minraise $32 ldo.
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05-03-2017 , 03:19 PM
Bet-c flop and ck-calldown sensible run outs/sizings.
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05-03-2017 , 03:28 PM
He has pocket 4's. Fold.
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05-03-2017 , 03:29 PM
His very small raise invites too much action to just flat. Would be a good option if this was heads up to get some money in the pot before going for fat value. Here it just brings a lot of people to the turn and have somebody with A4/T8 make a better two pair or 99/66 to make a set or 65/A3 to hit their straight.

Raise to $60. Brian doesn't have a lot so we don't have to go huge to move all in by river but hero wants this heads up on turn.
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05-03-2017 , 03:31 PM
You played 82 from the SB. This is the flop you want with the right kind of position on laggy Brian. Bet, let him raise (as he did) and reraise to something like $75. Shove non 4 turn. It's a lag and after 1am. Where I play that's when bet sizing goes out the window and you just shovel in chips when you have it.
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05-03-2017 , 03:41 PM
C/R flop given opponent image and position.

As played, 3-bet to $65 for value and to iso. 3 combos of 44 are a worry, block 88/22, ahead of 99/8X/42s combos and random over cards.
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05-03-2017 , 03:45 PM
I don't mind the pre call. Don't cut too deep.

I'd lead more on the flop, probably 15. 2P here is too weak to slow play OOP. I don't want to limit callers to only sets, but I don't want people hanging around with speculative hands either.

76 in the pot with our call. I put at least 50 on top, so 60 - 65 sounds good. Planning to gii against Brian, either calling his shove here or shoving the turn myself.
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05-03-2017 , 04:37 PM
**** Brian.

Fold Pre.

Given the flop I think we have two options, check and look to call an aggro player (Brian only it looks like) or raise him depending on the spot. Or, lead and try to get called for about 2.5 streets of value.

At the random passive table we have, I just make it $10 here. If no one has anything, so be it. If they think we're FOS or have a piece, great for us.

AP ... yuck. Folding is out of the question. Flatting invites trouble behind us with too many players sticking around. So I agree with 3-betting this. I think it has to be at least $60 to be effective. That leaves him with about $180 behind about $140-150 in the pot so we can jam it on a blank.

If he comes over the top ... I puke a little and remind myself that this is why I never want to go broke in a limped pot. But I think we *have* to call it off against this guy and just hope he's on something like A8 or TT and getting stupid. The times he has a set suck.
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05-04-2017 , 11:03 AM
Flop: 842 ($12)
Hero bets $8. 3 calls to Brian on the Btn. Brian raises to $20. Hero calls. 3 calls behind.

My thinking in the moment (which was bad thinking).

I really don't feel like stacking off in this spot yet, and it's going to be tough not to if I raise and get jammed on by Brian. I also am not totally convinced someone else wasn't sitting on a set and was waiting until the turn to blast off. Meh.


Turn: 842A ($112)
Hero?
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05-04-2017 , 11:08 AM
check...
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05-04-2017 , 11:13 AM
late to this one - would have 3! the flop to a small/medium sizing to avoid everyone calling behind.

AP check/eval turn.
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05-04-2017 , 11:19 AM
With the A on the turn I think this becomes check/fold territory when we're against 37 other players in a limped pot. One of those mouth breathers has A4 here and we're toast.

Never go broke in a limped pot.
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05-04-2017 , 11:19 AM
Ck-mostly folding.
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