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04-11-2013 , 06:16 AM
Hi guys

i'm currently saving 5k ( about $7500 ) too make a crack at it live

i live in England right now and my plan is at the end of July to take a 3 month visa and go and play in America more than likely in Tampa at the HardRock
my reason for that choice of venue is simply that they have 1-2 there and the max buy-in is $100 which is perfect for me i will be well rolled and in a nice location

im 22 and have been playing for about 7 years now and i would like to think i'm very good player confident in my game and my ability

bad part of my game is i can have real bad tilt issues and try and re-coop my losses if i have a bad session I've currently stopped poker/gambling full-stop until i move away to play which I've had no problem with at all.
the first thing i plan to do when i get to which ever casino i choose is put a max withdrawal on my card of 3 buy-ins ( in England in casino's you can choose a max withdrawal a day so i imagine this can be done in the US)
basically if i lose 3 buy-ins a day then that will be me done for the day. i can keep my head at 3 buy-ins but when it gets more i start to lose it a bit so figured this is the best way to go and will be banking every 2/3 days so all my money will always be in my bank account and hopefully with practice this will sort my tilt issues out full-stop and eventually i'll just be able to walk away from a game when it's going a bit south.

i was thinking of getting a hotel for a week then finding some accommodation for a month and taking it from there and hopefully travelling around when gaining some knowledge of the area and around the US of where's best to play

am i rolled correctly?
what do people generally think to the idea?
am i going to the right location?
04-11-2013 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lambo190488
they have 1-2 there and the max buy-in is $100 which is perfect for me [...] i'm very good player confident in my game and my ability
If you are good, why on earth would you deliberately seek out a short stack structure that diminishes your edge?
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Originally Posted by lambo190488
am i going to the right location?
**** no! Go to Las Vegas, AINEC!
04-11-2013 , 06:58 AM
If you can push up your time frame, one of the best times and places in the world to play poker is in Las Vegas during the WSOP. Basically the whole month of June.

In general though, the 3 best concentrated places to play in the US are Florida, Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

I don't know much about Florida, but I have a couple friends that play there for a living and say the action is great.

LA - Play at the Commerce and Bike

LV - You'll be fine pretty much any where on the strip

As far as BR goes, I would reccamend playing 1/2 and 1/3 buying in for 200-300 until your comfortable with the city/casino/games etc. If things are going well, then jump up to 2/5, but be willing to drop back down if your br goes below 5k. I think these are decent peramaters provided you are a winning player

Great to hear that you know your greatest weakness and enemy. Knowing is 1/2 the battle.

I wish you the best of luck and keep us updated on your journey!
04-11-2013 , 07:03 AM
Oh and if you are only going to choose one city or part of the country then definately go to Vegas and LA
04-11-2013 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by McMelchior
If you are good, why on earth would you deliberately seek out a short stack structure that diminishes your edge?

**** no! Go to Las Vegas, AINEC!
i wanted to be rolled perfectly and i figured i couldn't really be rolled at 1/2 with a $200 buyin? with 7kish
04-11-2013 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Floppydrunk
If you can push up your time frame, one of the best times and places in the world to play poker is in Las Vegas during the WSOP. Basically the whole month of June.

In general though, the 3 best concentrated places to play in the US are Florida, Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

I don't know much about Florida, but I have a couple friends that play there for a living and say the action is great.

LA - Play at the Commerce and Bike

LV - You'll be fine pretty much any where on the strip

As far as BR goes, I would reccamend playing 1/2 and 1/3 buying in for 200-300 until your comfortable with the city/casino/games etc. If things are going well, then jump up to 2/5, but be willing to drop back down if your br goes below 5k. I think these are decent peramaters provided you are a winning player

Great to hear that you know your greatest weakness and enemy. Knowing is 1/2 the battle.

I wish you the best of luck and keep us updated on your journey!
i couldn't right now, that's the time frame i wish i could
where is cheaper to stop?
where do your friends play in FL?
04-11-2013 , 07:09 AM
Cheapest all around for hotel, eating, comps and the like would by far be vegas
04-11-2013 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Floppydrunk
Cheapest all around for hotel, eating, comps and the like would by far be vegas
if im to go there and play 1/2

to be rolled correctly howmuch do i need in your opinion?
04-11-2013 , 07:18 AM
In order to win you need to win the max, short stacking is -EV and your hourly will be laughable at 100 max.
04-11-2013 , 07:19 AM
Playing a $100 max buy in is a mistake. You're bank rolled enough to play a full buyin game. Stay away from bingo poker that relies on heaters instead of skill.
04-11-2013 , 07:23 AM
if im to go to vegas and play 1/2 and it's going to be outside the WSOP where do people recomened playing casino wise and also how much would people safe is safe bankroll wise
04-11-2013 , 07:35 AM
You have plenty of money for anywhere in Vegas
04-11-2013 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
You have plenty of money for anywhere in Vegas
howmuch are hotels over there
where would people suggest is the fishiest place to play
04-11-2013 , 08:12 AM
No such thing as a good poker player with bad tilt issues. IMO. I hear this all the time. Regardless of how much you know about poker, tilting will break you.
04-11-2013 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by exploits
No such thing as a good poker player with bad tilt issues. IMO. I hear this all the time. Regardless of how much you know about poker, tilting will break you.

i'm a good player unless i'm tilted
right now i'm getting over my tilt issues.
and i know i can put a max withdrawal a day in any casino which is perfect really.
3 buyins a day rule and im good to go.
anything can be overcome every player has probably started of with bad tilt issues its just over-coming then
04-11-2013 , 09:03 AM
If you have tilt issues you may want to avoid LV. You can go about 100 feet and enter another casino and have another 3 bullets to use based on your idea. Why have an ATM card and pay fees ... et? You should find 1/2 anywhere but make sure your people reading skills are on since you will have a mix of 'dont cares', 'wannabes' and good to excellent players at the tables.

If you go to FL or LA you will have access to only one casino without driving quite a distance to 'cool down' from your tilt. But FL is a bit 'bingoish' with the $100 max (Although I thought they lifted that ... you may want to verify).

In LV I have stayed at the Super 8 near Bally's quite cheaply and they may even go lower for a weekly/monthly commitment. This is a short walk to Arai, Bellagio for 2/5 games and MGM for 1/2 games. I also enjoyed Orleans Casino, but that would be a taxi ride or extra long walk.

I would also stay away from all tournaments with a less than $100 entry as the structures are set up for only a 2 hr tournament (or less) ... go to Aria for $125 2x per day or the Orleans Friday nighter.

During WSOP the Rio will be nuts of course, but there should be action all around as well. I am by no means a LV reg, but did do a lot of research before I went on my trips.

I was once told that your goal should be 10x BB per hour. So for 1/2 you need to be making $20 per hour. That's it!! You should be able to make that in one hand per hour ... are you ready to fold away and wait for your spots or are you going to try and push someone who is on vacation off their TPTK when you are only a 30% to win?

As far as bullets ... some will say you need 6 months living expenses in one account and 40 to 50 buy-ins in another to take a stab at poker. It all comes down to how much time you are going to give yourself.

The best advice I ever read was that a LV pro would start with $600 (3 bullets) and go to a 1/2 table ... stay there until he ran it up to $1200ish, switch to 2/5 (3 $400 bullets) ... stay there until he ran it up to $2500ish and then determine whether or not to go play a tournament or start the process over with 1/2 based on how long it took and how tired he was. Eventually he was able to start his day at the 2/5 tables and then go to the 5/10 tables using the same base idea ... use your profits to move up on a given day, not your bankroll.

Hope you do well ... keep us up to date. GL

I wish you well and hope to hear about your success ... GL
04-11-2013 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by answer20
If you have tilt issues you may want to avoid LV. You can go about 100 feet and enter another casino and have another 3 bullets to use based on your idea. Why have an ATM card and pay fees ... et? You should find 1/2 anywhere but make sure your people reading skills are on since you will have a mix of 'dont cares', 'wannabes' and good to excellent players at the tables.

If you go to FL or LA you will have access to only one casino without driving quite a distance to 'cool down' from your tilt. But FL is a bit 'bingoish' with the $100 max (Although I thought they lifted that ... you may want to verify).

In LV I have stayed at the Super 8 near Bally's quite cheaply and they may even go lower for a weekly/monthly commitment. This is a short walk to Arai, Bellagio for 2/5 games and MGM for 1/2 games. I also enjoyed Orleans Casino, but that would be a taxi ride or extra long walk.

I would also stay away from all tournaments with a less than $100 entry as the structures are set up for only a 2 hr tournament (or less) ... go to Aria for $125 2x per day or the Orleans Friday nighter.

During WSOP the Rio will be nuts of course, but there should be action all around as well. I am by no means a LV reg, but did do a lot of research before I went on my trips.

I was once told that your goal should be 10x BB per hour. So for 1/2 you need to be making $20 per hour. That's it!! You should be able to make that in one hand per hour ... are you ready to fold away and wait for your spots or are you going to try and push someone who is on vacation off their TPTK when you are only a 30% to win?

As far as bullets ... some will say you need 6 months living expenses in one account and 40 to 50 buy-ins in another to take a stab at poker. It all comes down to how much time you are going to give yourself.

The best advice I ever read was that a LV pro would start with $600 (3 bullets) and go to a 1/2 table ... stay there until he ran it up to $1200ish, switch to 2/5 (3 $400 bullets) ... stay there until he ran it up to $2500ish and then determine whether or not to go play a tournament or start the process over with 1/2 based on how long it took and how tired he was. Eventually he was able to start his day at the 2/5 tables and then go to the 5/10 tables using the same base idea ... use your profits to move up on a given day, not your bankroll.

Hope you do well ... keep us up to date. GL

I wish you well and hope to hear about your success ... GL
great post thankyou.

as for the last bit, where did you see that? seams good to me.

it takes me 5/10 mins to cool down, so if i was in LV.. by the time i'd walk to another casino i'd be thinking what am i doing and stop anyway so it's no problem.
it's just that few minutes after blowing a few bullets im like i need to RECOOP
also, i don't want to pay through the roof for somewhere to live.... was on the hard rock FL website and it's like $500 a night where as casino
s on LV are cheap as chips and atleast in LV i could make friends and go out on the strip etc as i can imagine there as quite a few grinders there aswell
would be good to here from a LV grinder at the low stakes too see what they think
04-11-2013 , 10:26 AM
Use the bankroll thread for these types of discussion.
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