$5-$10 full table. Hero with 100 bb and AA utg. Raise to 6 bb preflop. Second seat villain calls with 150 bbs. Hero bets 12 bbs and gets called on a dry board. Should Hero cbet, shove or check and fold the turn? The actual play was to shove.

Smaller bet on flop if board is dry, it helps if you post actual cards as it helps us figure out how they connect with your range.

On the turn hero should probably be cbetting all cards unless boards becomes connected in some way (helps to know the card). Trap could also be fine if the board does not connect very well with our range, and better with villains call range.

Finally you did not speak about the river because you shoved the turn. By the river check or bet depending if we check or bet turn and depending if the card is a good card for our range or bad.

Shove on turn gets called by 2 pair or set, some trapped kings queens only. So its a -EV shove.

Edit: Important to note that the only thing we beat is trapped queens/kings, which can be discounted because villain shouldnt be trapping these alot.

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just because a bet only gets called by a better hand doesnt mean it is a total -ev bet or a bad one.

you do accomplish not letting a free or cheap card beat you. and stop yourself from getting run off on the end.

Wait are we advising him to overbet shove AA on a dry board after a pot bet call by villain on the flop?

I'm confused.

If you are saying that it is not minus EV per say, considering that he should win a fair amount of the time by folding villain, and rarely get called by something that beat hims, then yes you are right. What I should've said is this line really minimizes the EV you can make from this hand. But I think you are just nitpicking here lol.

i was talking more in general.

Lol. Yeah I wouldn't want OP to misinterpret that and keep shoving 2X pot with aces in that spot.

Hero was drawing to a 2-outer after the flop. At the turn Hero foolishly believed he had the best hand but caller had flopped a small set.

Judging by hero's post and analysis, I would suggest playing 1 2 NL to get more experience.

No worry. The opposition isn't much better.

1. Don't raise 6x UTG at $5/$10. You're giving away a huge sizing tell.
2. Don't pot the flop on a dry board. Bet closer to 30% pot.
3. Let us know what the cards were. If the board is As 6h 4d and the turn card is the 7h, that's very different to if the board is Kh 8s 2c and the turn card is the 2d.
4. Give us some read on the villain to work with.

Villain came across as solid and not hyper-aggressive. Flop was 5d 2c 8h. Turn was Th. Like I said, really dry flop. I shoulda realized I only get called if I'm crushed so the shove was seriously donking it.

the pot size is already half of what you have left. all under cards so not so easy to find a way to fold this hand. you could certainly could have bet less but if raised not so easy to fold unless you really know the player.

a better way to have played it maybe, would be to check 4th street and raise if he bets, or if he checks back, bet big on the river as to make it look like a bluff on the river. this line might catch more often other pairs. and could make your hand look like ace king with the river bet.

The way I'd play this hand would be something like:
Preflop: raise to 3bbs, 1 caller
Flop (7bbs): bet 3bbs, V calls
Turn (13bbs): bet 9bbs, V raises 27bbs, call
River (67bbs): Check. If villain bets more than 40bbs then fold. Otherwise call.

Agree. Also might save you a bit if V does have a set and decides to check turn back.

Always betting 3 streets with an overpair unimproved is generally a losing strategy against most V's.

works only against someone who calls top pair all the way down. or will go with an overpair. but you need the read or you become the fish.

against someone that plays well to make money you have to lead them astray in some way.

I don't understand. You post a major leak and you qualify your opposition as not good at 5/10.

I guarantee you with the way you played this hand, and the way you posted this hand, you haven't put much work in your game and to win at 5/10 you need to A: be properly rolled B: work on your game at least a little bit.

I think its fair to say that you should be playing 1/2, that way when you run -10BB/hour you lose 20$ an hour and not 100$ an hour.

I'm working on my game. I normally play the lower limit games but this time i decided to overstep the boundaries a bit. I have a large enough bankroll to play $40-$80 if I choose.

Fair enough, no worries. Its an expensive way to learn but learn you shall.


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Why are you playing scared money? 6x open utg? Makes sense if its live and that is the standard but not online. Villain's 150bb stack did not need to mentioned coz eff stack is 100bb only. Bet small on dry boards (again playing scared money). Even after this line it is still about 2 spr on turn. Check turn bet river. Your hand is not a 3 street value hand unless your opponent is a complete fish.

nothing wrong with opening very large in games where they are likely to call and get stuck in a big pot. playing your players is most important. this was live as this is a live forum.
aces is a special hand and many times the best way to play it is to try to felt the other player. but as i said you have to have a read on him.

Nothing to do with scared money. We need to play in a way that make sense with all our range. And the way op played or that is suggested doesn’t.


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