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Originally Posted by WereBeer
Ideally I like to see a couple of young guns bringing their 3bet/4bet bluff ranges to the table.
This didn't happen.
One reason it didn't happen is that whale was desperate to play hands. If he limps/floats 70% then gets 3!-->4! off a large portion of those hands, he'll lose interest. Sure he'll call QTs because there's a royal flush jackpot ticking, and small pp because he can flop a set and doesn't know/care about odds. But he'll fold some K-rag, A-rag and other stuff that's dominated. Keeping him at the table and in hands was everyone's goal, so we frequently had $100+ in the pot pre on a multiway, then extracted safe value post. When he hit a hand, we folded. When we hit a hand, he didn't. Simple stuff.
Another reason it (3!4! game) didn't happen is because of my seating position. I was seat 9, whale was seat 5. I was easily the most active pre, raising EP with a ton of hands. Seats 1, 2, 3, 4 wanted to keep seat 5 in - which left seats 6, 7, 8 free to 3! - but if I'm EP then 6, 7, 8 have either folded already or are in poor position post (and I can raise premiums too). Seat 6 (very good reg) was the only potential spanner, and he did 3! a couple of times, but not enough to really change the dynamic.
Note: Sorry if this info and the whale 75/5/0 stats were not in OP. I felt there was strat potential in this, but not a reg on LSLNL and not sure what's going to be relevant at the outset.
It did make reg opponent ranges unpredictable though, because it was rare to see 3! and every multiway pot therefore had a potential mix of premiums, low three-gappers and everything in between. It became more of a soul reading, 'feel' game than a range exploit game against other regs - because no-one knew what anyone had. Fun stuff.
My thinking was that playing a (reasonable) maximum number of hands had to be a good thing, because i was in more pots which provided a greater opportunity to take advantage of the dynamic. When the 3!4! adjustment didn't happen (see above), I continued my strat was to open wide, call in position, draw cheap and iso/pound away with value hands against whale and with a mix of value/combos against the regs. I didn't pound combos against the whale, because his mid pair 8 kicker might end up good in a $1K pot and he'll have no idea why.
The table did seem to adjust with more 3! towards the end, as it was fairly clear that if I'd opened EP (yet again) and had two callers, then it was as juicy a 3! spot as you're ever going to see regardless of whale. But some (very good) regs continued to flat premiums and look for monsters post flop that could extract value against the entire field in bloated pots. I just didn't like taking the chance of waiting for monsters while someone else scooped chips.
Last edited by oldsilver; 05-18-2018 at 10:05 PM.