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10-07-2014 , 08:39 PM
Really fun NL hand I played at foxwoods. Table was great; lots of limping and multi way pots and really no one to be afraid of. The BB was a complete and utter noob doing all kinds of bizarre and fishy stuff. I have 900 in front of me.

4 people (including utg) limp to a hoodie/sunglasses guy who was trying to play good who makes it 15 to go (lol). I call with qj no suits in the small blind knowing it's going off at least 6 handed.

Pots about 100. Flop comes 672dd, I check and big blind bets 10. Yes 10. He was obviously new and was making bizarre bets like this often. He was betting small with small hands and big with big hands. Utg and two others call and hoodie guy makes it 45.

I decided the BB who lead out for 10 was weak because of what I saw earlier. Everyone who just called is still wide open and they'd raise all their strong hands. And the for the guy in the hoodie, the biggest hand he can is an overpaid and I think he'd fold that to my raise because it'd look so strong. Plus he was pretty weak-tight.

So I raise to 110. BB folds quickly and UTG snap calls! Everyone else folds. Now I'm done with the hand pretty much. Until... An offsuit jack hits the turn. I check and he insta shoves about 400 into about a 400 pot.

Thoughts?
10-08-2014 , 06:27 AM
Play better.
10-08-2014 , 06:39 AM
mate you gotta call
you got top pair good kicka
10-08-2014 , 06:44 AM
you really screwed this hand up - no need to get tricky here. Board is super wild but I assume he has a pair + draw type of hand.

You have to call now and should expect to have around 40 - 50% equity but you are getting enough pot odds to justify it.
10-08-2014 , 06:46 AM
spewy flop raise is spewy.
10-08-2014 , 07:36 AM
Pre is meh.. but it sounds like your table is bad so w/e

Your play on the flop is astronomically bad... just fold. You are trying to bluff from the SB with Q high and no back door draw into a bet and a raise and then 2 callers. Yikes...

Turn is a fold for me, what value hands do you beat that you expect this opponent to shove with after the flop action?
10-08-2014 , 07:55 AM
Total spew.
10-08-2014 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by -Edde
Pre is meh.. but it sounds like your table is bad so w/e

Your play on the flop is astronomically bad... just fold. You are trying to bluff from the SB with Q high and no back door draw into a bet and a raise and then 2 callers. Yikes...

Turn is a fold for me, what value hands do you beat that you expect this opponent to shove with after the flop action?
Appreciate the thoughts but what exactly about my thought process on the flop is wrong? The min bet from the BB is weak, I had a real solid read about it. The people calling the min bet can't have two pair or sets because they would certainly raise with such a wet board.

The only guy im worries about is the pre flop raiser, and im pretty much counting on him folding an overpair (which he did.)

I know it's not standard but think outside the box here people.


Anyway i tanked and called the turn and was good. I felt like a super hero and you guys would have all folded which is why you still play small stakes im just kidding but kind of not.
10-08-2014 , 08:44 AM
Flop was spewy given you are in no way the aggressor in the hand. You are trying to represent a decent hand OOP to a large multi-way pot and if they are fishy you are going to get calls from a lot of combos - hence a lot of bad turn cards for you to try continue barreling on profitably. I'm fine with pre. Turn, I'm folding even though we hit the jack. UTG could easily be FPSing his hand and we have no further reads to suggest that our pair is good here given our odds and what we're risking with just one pair.
10-08-2014 , 09:43 AM
Nice catch. You deserve a lot of praise for making that "hero" call.
10-08-2014 , 10:03 AM
Did he show his hand? I'm guessing draw.
10-08-2014 , 10:07 AM
You found a spot to make a play, went ahead with it ... and got lucky. It happens in poker all the time.

It's tough to be correct with multiple reads in the same hand so from that stand point it was certainly a risky play. Not quite sure how 'hoodie' folds an over pair here (QQ/TT?), but that was the key read on your part.

The crap shoot comes in when you don't necessarily consider the rest of the table seeing what you are seeing and lay in the weeds hand to hand for just such a 'move' to occur. You didn't say what they had? Flush/strt draw or Arag pair.

Sometimes in poker you need to put yourself in 'new' spots to see how you and your opponents react to them. In this case here you got lucky. I assume he put you on a flush draw and just got drawn out on. Certainly tiliting when you hit and don't have the flush to back it up though also!! GL
10-08-2014 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
Appreciate the thoughts but what exactly about my thought process on the flop is wrong? The min bet from the BB is weak, I had a real solid read about it. The people calling the min bet can't have two pair or sets because they would certainly raise with such a wet board.

The only guy im worries about is the pre flop raiser, and im pretty much counting on him folding an overpair (which he did.)

I know it's not standard but think outside the box here people.


Anyway i tanked and called the turn and was good. I felt like a super hero and you guys would have all folded which is why you still play small stakes im just kidding but kind of not.
Bluffing into 4 people OOP with Q hi is lighting money on fire... Just because it worked this time doesnt mean you will profit long term.

It sounds like you have posted this hand as a brag considering your ego-driven jape in your last sentence.
10-08-2014 , 10:27 AM
I play 1/2, so sometimes a different game than 2/5, but when I'm at a stationy table, when I try to get tricky like this it usually fails unless I get lucky.

I look back and ask why did I do that when all I have to do is play ABC TAG and I'll post a nice win.

That said, if only the weak-tight and hoodie were in the hand, it would be a much better play.
10-08-2014 , 11:17 AM
Bluffing into multiple people with zero equity usually doesn't often work out. Congrats on winning the hand but try to be careful in the future because in the long run this is going to be total spew.
10-08-2014 , 11:20 AM
BBV is that way ------------->
10-08-2014 , 11:23 AM
Your play is lighting money on fire...don't bluff into multiple opponents when you completely miss the flop. Might work every once in awhile but it'll cost you money in the long-run.
10-08-2014 , 11:36 AM
This is all mega-spew, when you get to a point where you make an OOP $100 raise on the flop and then are "done with the hand" when called, you've done something wrong.

As played...call.
10-08-2014 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WILLOC
This is all mega-spew, when you get to a point where you make an OOP $100 raise on the flop and then are "done with the hand" when called, you've done something wrong.

As played...call.
Call a pot sized jam, are you insane? What do we beat?

Fold pre probably, definitely fold to flop raise, c/r is silly, fold turn, fold.
10-08-2014 , 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poogs
Anyway i tanked and called the turn and was good. I felt like a super hero and you guys would have all folded which is why you still play small stakes im just kidding but kind of not.

Over 3,000 posts and you're still just an arrogant fish. No wonder poker is so profitable.
10-08-2014 , 12:15 PM
Awesome brag post brah....now please tell some stories where you make other bad calls and the guy has you crushed and drawing dead (actually please don't).

You do realize you're still posting in low-stakes NLH, right??
10-08-2014 , 12:40 PM
fold pre dude

the rest is donating money

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poogs
Anyway i tanked and called the turn and was good. I felt like a super hero and you guys would have all folded which is why you still play small stakes im just kidding but kind of not.
do you realize you are good a small percentage of the time out of every 100 times you call the turn shove?

I am glad there are still a lot of bad players out there im just kidding but not really
10-08-2014 , 03:19 PM
keep on grindin guys
10-08-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by trucdouf
BBV is that way ------------->
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