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Fresh Bankroll where should I go? Fresh Bankroll where should I go?

08-19-2013 , 05:52 PM
I've spent this entire summer building a bankroll and strictly studying poker through books and 2p2. I have built my bankroll to $1,000 and am now ready to go play live games at the Commerce Casino in LA. My plan was to initially play the 40 cap buy in until I build my roll to over 2.5K then move up to the 100. However I've noticed a few people on this website posting how the 40 cap is a waste of time and should be avoided. Playing the 40 gives me 25 Buy ins where as playing 100 would only give me 10. I'm confident in my skill level to be able to beat the 100 but with my limited bankroll I'm not sure what would be the most profitable course of action. My goal is to build a big bankroll and improve my game along with it so hopefully someday I can go beyond LLSNL. Where should I go first?
08-19-2013 , 06:02 PM
I'm not entirely sure, but I think playing anything below 2/3 in LA is going to be like banging your head against a brick wall with regards to rake.
08-19-2013 , 10:05 PM
With rake the $100 cap is probably difficult to beat over time. Game select tables with as many deep stacks as possible and your intention should be to double up as soon as possible as well. (playing AJo+ hard and fast)

I find it quite funny a $40 cap exists. It is most certainly unbeatable.
08-19-2013 , 10:34 PM
Commerce's $40NL is a heavily handicapped game that is its own world...

It doesn't even really matter how much you have studied 2+2 books, which most won't even apply in this game.

I would try to save more and play bigger games that have better buyin structure.
08-19-2013 , 11:02 PM
Yeah I've played that 40 buy-in before and its very ridiculous. I appreciate all your responses and they are very valid which is making me rethink playing the 40. However I've also noticed through playing at those tables that usually if you just wait for a big hand you almost always get paid off by middle pairs, low pairs, and draws. These players will go all in on the flop with nothing half the time! Would that strategy basically waiting for monsters and getting paid off eventually turn a profit? I'm sure variance would be through the roof but I figure in the long run I may be able to make my 2.5k goal at that Buy In. This is just my opinion and if anyone can give a different perspective on it I would very much appreciate it.
08-20-2013 , 12:13 AM
In to see how long before topic lock.

$1k is not a "bankroll", unless you buy short every time at 1/2, and don't rebuy.

And no disrespect about the topic lock. Just seeing if I need a new alias because this one's simply marked by the mods, or if LLSNL is really that bad of a part of the site. I get at least 50% of my topics locked before 10 posts, even if I post a hand or question like this.
08-20-2013 , 12:38 AM
You think people are out to get you probably because you think you're somehow important enough to warrant such attention.

You are not.

You just make really bad topics.
08-20-2013 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutrogena
You think people are out to get you probably because you think you're somehow important enough to warrant such attention.

You are not.

You just make really bad topics.
I never saw him claim that people were out to get him, he's obviously new. But yes, you need to save a bit more, when you have around 4-5k take shots at a 2/3 300NL game where blind structure is normal and rake is beatable IMO.

EDIT: NM I thought this was in reference to OP, reading fail.
08-20-2013 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutrogena
You think people are out to get you probably because you think you're somehow important enough to warrant such attention.

You are not.

You just make really bad topics.
Ah now it all makes sense.

And no, I just have my mistakes pointed out in passive aggressive, useless forms that I can learn from. So I'm always curious community reactions to the same ones, made by others.

I never said I make good ones. I just make them.
08-20-2013 , 02:12 AM
Also I was literally "warned" by mods for reasons including making topics with no hand or poker "strategy" to be analyzed.

I think my statistics debate took the cake though, lol.
08-20-2013 , 02:35 AM
$1k isn't a bankroll. Bankrolls are dumb if you're playing 1/2 anyway. You're not going to move out and live on your own playing 1/2, and 1/2 isn't such high stakes that it's impossible to scrounge up a buy-in if you go busto.

Play whichever game is most profitable. Is the commerce the one with the 1/3 300 max? Because that would actually be beatable unlike the 20bb max games. Buy in for full, and if you blow your 1k so be it, but that's the best chance you have.

Mind you this is all assuming you're actually a winning player.
08-20-2013 , 02:56 AM
Just take a shot at 2/3 and hope you don't look back. That's exactly what I did started playing 2/3 with 900 bucks ran good with a couple +1k sessions, took a shot at 5/10 with 4k a few days later and the heater continued with a few +2-6k sessions and I haven't looked back since and it's been over a year... And now I'm actually rolled for the games I play. If you go busto save a few buy-ins and try again.
08-20-2013 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DK Barrel
$1k isn't a bankroll. Bankrolls are dumb if you're playing 1/2 anyway. You're not going to move out and live on your own playing 1/2, and 1/2 isn't such high stakes that it's impossible to scrounge up a buy-in if you go busto.

Play whichever game is most profitable. Is the commerce the one with the 1/3 300 max? Because that would actually be beatable unlike the 20bb max games. Buy in for full, and if you blow your 1k so be it, but that's the best chance you have.

Mind you this is all assuming you're actually a winning player.
Commerce imo is terrible all their lowstake games 1/2,2/3,3/5 are all about 20BB-40BB its pretty sad actually. After that it starts to increase.
Thanks for all the responses I've decided to save up some more and give the 2/3 a try once I have enough to play in my comfort zone.
08-20-2013 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sevada
Commerce imo is terrible all their lowstake games 1/2,2/3,3/5 are all about 20BB-40BB its pretty sad actually. After that it starts to increase.
Thanks for all the responses I've decided to save up some more and give the 2/3 a try once I have enough to play in my comfort zone.
Commerce has a 5-5 500NL that is actually quite good once you get to that level. Save till you have like 2-3k and take a shot at the bike 2/3 300NL it is very good from what i remember (been a while but im sure it's still great). If you busto keep trying, if you are a solid winning player you will beat the limit soon enough, build a real roll and be able to start to move up.

On a side note, if you bust 3k at the bike 300NL you have issues with your game, losing 10BI at 300nl really shouldn't happen unless you hit the lotto of run bad (srsly it shouldn't happen).
08-20-2013 , 08:18 AM
Forget about saving, just get a job and give your paychecks to the poker community like the rest of the broke people who think they can play do.
08-20-2013 , 09:40 AM
Plenty to learn at 1/2 even if you can't make a living from it. I'd try the 100 for several sessions, get a read on what you are winning per hour in BBs. If you are beating the table (your win rate before rake) regularly then its worth stepping up to a less rake-brutal game and check your game there.

Lots of regs at my fav room who aren't quite good enough and/or rolled enough to play 2/5 full time will sit down at 1/2 and try to run it up to $300 or $400 at which point they go stab at the 2/5 game.

Have fun!
08-20-2013 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagzzz
Forget about saving, just get a job and give your paychecks to the poker community like the rest of the broke people who think they can play do.
I lol'd. Well said.

Also how has this not been locked?
08-20-2013 , 01:22 PM
the obv answer is to play 5/10 and wait for KK and AA then shove AIPF
08-20-2013 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagzzz
Forget about saving, just get a job and give your paychecks to the poker community like the rest of the broke people who think they can play do.
Or I can just quit my job and be a low life troll like yourself who has nothing better to do with his life than talk over the internet.
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