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foxwoods hand - villian limpcalls pre and moves in vs my cbet - how light can I call him here? foxwoods hand - villian limpcalls pre and moves in vs my cbet - how light can I call him here?

10-10-2013 , 08:31 PM
game has been super loose passive lotta limpers and ive won a few pots just raising to isolate and they just fold to me preflop. other than that I've been pretty TAGgy not showing down anything really so far I'm kinda new to table

villian limps in EP - idk who he is but he's wearing sunglasses, hat, and headphones and has been limping a lot pre so no real solid read on him yet probly a decent reg at best

few other limpers

i raise on the button w A6
two callers

flop a 7 5

check
check
i continuation bet 35

villian 1 shoves for 103 more (138 total)

how often are we behind (alot) to make a call here ok? we are getting over 2:1 on the 103 to call keep in mind
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10-10-2013 , 08:36 PM
its villain dependent

against a complete unknown who isnt a total shortstack, id fold.

if hes been doing this pretty often, though, and has shown up with less than top pair, you should call.
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10-10-2013 , 08:47 PM
yes i agree it is villain dependent and i think fold is best here all the time
Spoiler:
i said merry christmas and called lost to 55
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10-10-2013 , 09:33 PM
This is a simple math question.

First, decide what Villain's range is.

Second, decide if the pot is giving you the right odds to call, given Villain's range.

As played, I probably call here, given all the stupid bluff-shoves I witness.
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10-10-2013 , 09:50 PM
I think you're isolating pre a little light with A6o. You're getting called by hands that dominate you. I'd rather have stronger hands or weaker suited connector type hands. A6o is just kinda trash. Not sure how best to play this pre. I guess raising is OK. But I think folding is pretty OK, too, and I'd probably just fold.

As played, you can't fold getting 2:1 here without a read.
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10-10-2013 , 09:55 PM
Fold pre
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10-10-2013 , 09:58 PM
What are you trying to do raising with A6o into a field of limpers.

When he limp calls then check shoves into 4 players it's mostly going to be better aces and sets.

People overestimate how often people shove with draws.
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10-11-2013 , 12:55 AM
yes i agree the a6o is very very questionable raise pre and is basically the lighest i would do (however i occasionally find myself mixing it up with like K4o etc random things that may have high card showdown value vs sooted connectors when we both miss)
i just raised pre cuz i figured they would fold very very often and was just hoping i could take it down post flop cbetting vs whiffed cards which happens a lot in loose passive live games

its kinda a value raise i guess pre hoping they call w liek KQ QJ etc etc but u are right im often called here pre with a dominating ace which blows but at least ig ot position and can hopefully lose the minimum in those cases.

i feel that i would raise here pre with a6sooted 100% of the time so why not throw in an a6offsuit
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10-11-2013 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Newyorkgrinder
i feel that i would raise here pre with a6sooted 100% of the time so why not throw in an a6offsuit
Because the nut flush draw is a very powerful hand while TPWK is not.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Newyorkgrinder
however i occasionally find myself mixing it up with like K4o etc random things that may have high card showdown value vs sooted connectors when we both miss
This sounds like a massive leak.
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