Hand One:2/5, 9 handed, $400 effective with BTN, $800 effective with SB, $500 effective with +1, $600 effective with HJ, $800 effective with CO. Hero has a TAG image.

Loose passive fish, who is also a huge station pre straddles BTN $10, loose passive SB calls, loose passive +1 calls, and hero has Q J in LJ. HJ is tight passive, and CO is a pretty big station pre. Hero?


Hand Two: 2/5, 9 handed, $800-$1k effective with everyone at the table. Hero has a TAG image for the most part.

Loose passive doing a lot of limp-folding limps UTG, loose passive who views hero as a NIT and will only limp-call if it's mw limps +2, loose passive mainly limp-folding limps HJ, hero has A 5 in CO. BTN is a nit, SB is a huge station pre, and BB is loose passive but not super stationary vs raises. Hero? Is there any merit to raising here?




Hand Three: 2/5, 9 handed, $600 effective with +2, $1k effective with LJ, $600 effective with HJ, $300 effective with BTN, $1k effective with blinds. Hero has a TAG image, by far the tightest at the table.

Loose passive doing a lot of limp-folding limps +2, loose passive close to 50-50 between limp-fold and limp-call limps LJ, loose passive mainly limp-folding limps HJ, hey has A J in CO. BTN is a huge station pre. SB is loose passive, but not giving a lot of action to hero. BB is pretty stationary, and pretty likely to come around if BTN does. Hero?


Hand Four: 2/5, 9 handed, $400 effective with BTN, and more or less $1k effective with everyone else. Hero has a TAG image, with emphasis on aggressive.

BTN who is probably defending about 60% of his straddles and is sticky post straddles $10 OTB. Loose passive limp-folding unless it's super mw limps SB, BB with the same description as BB limps, and hero has K Q UTG. LJ and HJ are pretty big stations pre. Hero?

Thank you in advance for your responses.

Hand 1: The villains seem mostly passive and stationary so I favor a call. The button straddle makes it a marginal situation tough and I wouldn't complain if you just fold. If you had a little more FE I might squeeze sometimes but not in this hand.

Hand 2: Any option is OK here. Squeeze occasionally, limp sometimes and fold sometimes. Your hand is good enough for a bluff squeeze with several limp/fold types in the hand. It's an OK hand for seeing a cheap flop deep. It isn't so good you have to play it.

Hand 3: Raise is best but folding isn't particularly bad. I like $30 after that many limps and having likely stations behind you. Just don't limp, AJo isn't a limping hand. If you know villains like to limp/call with AQ/AK then favor folding. This is more of an issue at passive 1/2 games then 2/5 though.

Hand 4: Pop it to $50 or fold. Hate to fold but being OOP against a crowd is not a good situation and KQs is not so strong that you are obligated to play in in EP.

I would raise them all but don't mind limping the A5s since it plays so well multi-way. If we raise and everybody folds, SB calls HU or everybody calls we're not unhappy. KQs is just too strong do anything but raise from any position. AJo is just too strong to fold IP against fish. QJs is a tasty hand.

Fold. Raise. Fold. Fold.

Raise, limp or raise at 50-50% frequency based on image, fold, raise.

AJo in the other smaller game (you know where lol) you'd fold at these same depths, no different at 2/5 here.

Thank you for the feedback, everyone.

I ended up folding hand one, overlimping hand two, overlimping hand 3, and raising hand four to $70. I didn't particularly love any of these, but I also didn't think they were particularly easy spots (hence, why I posted them.) I feel like I'm playing too weak tight in these mouth breather games, but I could be overthinking it.

I folded hand one, because I figured we were going at least three ways, and I'd be either out of position the entire hand, or be out of position vs two opponents, and wouldn't be able to print by c betting. Probably not a huge deal, but I'm sure we make more overlimping or raising.


Hand two I feel like I should've raised. 3/4 say overlimping is fine, so I'm not gonna think too much about this one.

3/4 agree with folding hand four, so I'm not gonna overthink it.

Again, 3/4 agree with raising hand four, so I'm not gonna overthink it. I went $70 to hopefully generate FE, and worst case scenario go three ways to a flop. I don't think $50 is enough in these games. Unfortunately LJ, HJ, BTN, SB, and BB all came along and we went six ways to a 654r flop and I had to x-f. Probably just nothing we can do here?

@U of M Poker - I would definitely fold AJ most of the time in the smaller game. I was wondering, too, if that was too weak tight. I'm glad to see it isn't. That place did shut down forever, though. They're looking to see if they can open somewhere else. I'll let you know if they find somewhere.

Hand 4 you were in an amazing game/spot to get that much action with your slightly larger than normal pfr. You have the effective nuts on any K or Q high flop with that spr, and you can flop some sick high equity draws.

Also, if the pot was 2 or maybe 3 way you could of barreled your way to victory on A high boards if you flop flush draws, gutters, open enders, or even some backdoor draws because of your blocking properties to AK and AQ. Idk, I like playing KQss aggressively pre with a tight image (even with button straddle lowering stacks by 50%), I don't agree on others wanting to play passively with KQss.

If you got that many callers then your right, $50 isn't enough. You got the donkey train where once you get a couple of callers everybody after that thinks they are priced in. Then you got a nightmare flop, so check/fold is really by far the best option.

Keeping your disciple in these super loose games is critical. These games are very profitable but are also high variance. With multiple people calling big raises you make a lot of money when you do take down the pot but you will have to check/fold more flops.

Call.
Raise
Raise
Raise

Buying the BTN is an advantage; ability to pot control vs. many loose, stationy players.

You won't do that from LJ in H1, and while you might not in H3 (CO), you have a range advantage (vs. BTN) that will offset, imho.

Folding hand 1 seems like a massive mistake. Your hand plays incredibly well multiway and 3 fish have already entered the pot. What is the reason people here are advocating for folding? I think there are merits to both calling and raising. I'd probably lean towards call since raising will likely bloat the pot without getting many folds. Better to keep SPR higher with your hand so you have more opportunities to chase draws and own the fish when it comes in.

Hand 2 - Call or raise seem fine. I like limping these hands mulitway since we can make a ton of nutty hands and stack our opponents. Raising is fine especially given reads. Nothing wrong with taking it down pre.

Hand 3 - Raise. Don't think it's close.

Hand 4 - Raise. Don't think it's close.

hand 1 i am making it like 45. just hoping to thin the heard a bit. our hands great, folding is crazy too me.

hand 2 i am mainly overlimping but raising is ok.

hand 3 a little of both

hand 4 raise. i would make it like 55, though 70 is good if a billion people are going to call it.

limp H1

raise H2
raise H3
fold h4

grunch

H1: Would limp. This hand doesn't mind a high SPR, multiway as much as a hand like ATo+ or KJo+. Unlikely to get squeezed out in this lineup and should get paid off with two pair+ as well. Never folding. Would raise to $55-70 if table were deeper overall or in CO.

H2: r/f seems good at this stack depth in this lineup. Over limping>folding imo.

H3: r/f seems good at this stack depth in this lineup again.

H4: r/f seems good at this stack depth in this lineup again.