G'day

Was in a live house poker game last night, $20 buy ins with a $200 pot. I was big stack for most of the night, and it came to the final 3 with the two other players each being around half my stack, and an observer who I consider to be a good player.

One hand one of them raised, the other quickly called, and I folded Queens. I think had three reasons for this:

- Me and one of the other players wanted a split pot
- I felt that the other players were strong and it had the potential to be a large pot
- I didn't want to take any big chances as big stack in general

The observer looked at my hand and started telling me over and over it was a bad play. Anyway, it turned out the other players had AJ and KJ. So I was dead to an Ace, King, trip Jacks or a straight. 2 jacks came on the flop and one of the players got the other all in (ofc) so now 1 player is about my size and the other is small stack.

A run of trash hands came and the small stack gained some size. By now the observer was looking at nearly all of my hands. Then I was dealt KK on the button. I tripled the blind, and the other big stack pushed all in. To me this displays a very, very strong hand. I'm the other big stack and I've tripled the blind, and he's committed all his chips. Small stack calls, which didn't mean much (he had A9). My first thought was Fold. Not only because he could have aces, but I would just rather take a 100% chance to split the pot than a 75% chance at best to win the whole pot. I can't really say which made me want to fold more, wanting the split or reading aces. But the observer told me I had to call, I had to call, it was a bad play, and I should call coz I have them crushed. So I took his advice and called.

He showed aces and won the pot, so I went from being big stack all night to winning nothing 1 hand away from a split.

So my question is, when should you fold KK or QQ? Is it ever ok to fold KK? Is it even ok to fold AA if you feel strongly you are in for half the pot? Not that I ever would fold AA but I am wondering how other players make these equity moves. Secondly, I have read hands such as KK and AA many times before, but is it still a wrong play to fold KK thinking they have AA?

Is this a tournament?

Also KK and QQ are a good bit different

Yeah it was a tournament

Is this cash only?

Yeah just worked out it is but I can't delete the post

I would probably be doing you a huge favor if I told you to never fold QQ or KK preflop

Go buy some tourney books. You don't get more conservative with a big stack, you get more aggressive.

Also, your point about wanting to split with another player is borderline collusion.

I hate both of these folds so much.

Also are you getting advice mid hand from this observer? That's not good practice.

Everything about this is soooooo bad.

This is the cash game forum. I'd suggest posting in a tournament forum for advice.

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