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Folded pocket kings pre in multiway pot. Thoughts appreciated... Folded pocket kings pre in multiway pot. Thoughts appreciated...

02-18-2016 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
Because you've met and played with these guys?
Because I read the OP.

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Action fold to the button, a decent but slightly over aggressive player who likes to raise when he's first in. He raises to Ł10. Small blind, another decent and aggressive Scandinavian player 3 bets to Ł35.
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02-18-2016 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
4-betting to get worse to fold is the bad part.
who said they are both folding?
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02-18-2016 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FrederikFudge
The button had aq, sb had ak. And my kk would have held up. I know my fold was probably incorrect, but how incorrect was it, considering I want to keep variance low and had to risk 2 buyins on that particular call? would anyone else fold kk pre, and if so what conditions would you do so in?
the bolded is not a reason to fold. Not really even close. The fact that you think this is a good reason to fold in some way indicates you are notready to maximize winrate.
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02-18-2016 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FrederikFudge
Yeah... There is some ignorant comments on here... I'm making 20bb per hour at the mo so my reasoning included finding better spots later in the night, when I know for a fact I won't be dominated by a bigger pair.
This is dumb. Those spots will still present themselves later whether you fold here or not.

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Originally Posted by FrederikFudge
(By the way I ended that session up Ł700).
Completely irrelevant but glad it went well

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Originally Posted by FrederikFudge
Saying I should quit, and I'm not good enough because I chose to protect my bankroll is pretty dumb. I'm not saying I made the right decision, but you guys are jumping to massive dismissive conclusions, and would absolutely love to meet you at the tables.
Well I agree saying you should quit seems silly but you are leaving a lot of money on the table by dismissing edges based on variance.

Also don't take it so personally. You asked a question and got answers that you didn't like. It's the internet.
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02-18-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
who said they are both folding?
To quote Lap,

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Originally Posted by Lapidator
I read the OP.
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Originally Posted by FrederikFudge
I 4bet to Ł90 thinking they'll both fold.
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02-18-2016 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Because I read the OP.
So why'd you say "personally?" Did you mean "imo"? They mean different things. This is like that time I said skill was a defense against losing money even when oop and you thought "defense" meant a complete invulnerability.
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02-18-2016 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
To quote Lap,
oh OP said that got it...I thought you meant Lapi did but understand
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02-18-2016 , 05:10 PM
Yeah, the 4-bet had poor reasoning, but if you 4-bet I guess it's to fold to more heat, I don't mind the fold. I have no idea how UK games play though.
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02-18-2016 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by eldiesel
So why'd you say "personally?" Did you mean "imo"? They mean different things. This is like that time I said skill was a defense against losing money even when oop and you thought "defense" meant a complete invulnerability.
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02-19-2016 , 02:04 AM
Your reasoning may be wrong if you relate it to your bankroll. If bankroll is creating this attitude then you are nor rolled for your game. So, you folded KK pre to avoid fluctuation? Then why did you 4bet to $90 pre in the first place? You must figure that if you get called the bets on the flop will be huge and be committing yourself if you even either bet or call or raise a flop bet.
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02-21-2016 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
First, was there even an attempt to be original with your dis? Or is it a foregone conclusion that you can't think for yourself and you went straight to googling for memes.

Second, you picked the worst one because that show's setting wasn't even a planet.
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02-23-2016 , 01:24 PM
Most people playing capped buy in low limit nl tables, are not bankrolled to play at the limit they play. If they were, there would be no capped game or capped game players. To beat what remains of Op's horse, this wasn't a theory question.

KK pre is not a guaranteed winner starting from preflop. Op made a fold to protect a small bankroll from potential damage - if Op was to lose the hand. Of course the fold wasn't the correct play from a theory perspective. Op wasn't asking if it was.

If losing the hand puts Op on the rail, shakes his confidence, or places Op in spot where he can not play comfortably against the Villains in the hand, then folding was the correct decision for Op in this particular hand.
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02-23-2016 , 02:25 PM
Folding KK pre to avoid variance is not legitimate. Folding because he got cold 5 bet may be. Passing up +EV spots to avoid variance is, while not profitable, acceptable if you're playing with a very short roll. Folding KK pre
For that reason is folly. You shouldn't even be playing if that is your mindset in that situation.
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