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09-22-2014 , 03:57 PM
If you are confused by this spot you are not a lag or at least not a good lag.
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09-22-2014 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Willikizz
. 107 was not even close to the bottom of my range.
you have the straddle. your range is ATC, meaning 100%
FYI:
ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
1,866,411,360 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Td7d48.41% 866,788,60373,316,420
90%51.59% 926,306,33773,316,420

as far as postflop, you really should not use terms like "top of my range" if you apply it to this specific preflop situation but not on the flop.

since you seem to consider T7s to be not even close to be the bottom of your atc range, you will raise more or less every hand. for a atc range, this flop is almost the top of your range with this specific hand

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
951,390 trials (Exhaustive)
board: T86
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
Td7d83.17% 777,27028,094
90%16.83% 146,02628,094

pretty much meaningless math here from me btw, just that you get an idea what terms like "top/bottom of range" actually mean.

as far as the hand was played, +1 to check pre.
as played, you obv flopped huge, have to bet flop when your equity is highest, get raised, folding away our huge equity sucks, we are basically flipping vs most reasonable raises with dead money, some live donks might even raise fold in this spot, so snap get it in. nothing complicated once raised pre, but the way you use poker terms and are defensive this whole thread imo you don´t have the tools yet to play a laggy style profitably.
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09-22-2014 , 05:04 PM
My "range" is not ATC in fact it is very selective. You won't find me raising hands like J6 or 9-2 you won't find me raising every ace. You won't find me raising every hand, you definitely won't find me playing every hand. But you won't find me sticking to premiums. I raise to apply pressure with hands I think have some potential and that could be as low as 5/2. I don't raise regardless i consider the opponents before me. I don't play this way every time I play. I play this way when I think I can and this was one if those tables.

With the hand I have not said I shipped I have not said I folded. I will tell you now I didn't flat. I'm not asking for justification of my style of play or whether or not I should raise my straddle.

I listed six points that were going through my mind before making my decision. I think before committing my stack I am entitled to question whether or not it is correct to do so and whilst it seems like a no brainer during analysis it's not quite as cut and dried when the points I listed are going through my mind at the table.

My final point I did make was I can't be folding this hand on this flop but I wanted to judge feedback.

One final note. To all those (including those with snarky comments). I do appreciate the responses except for the ones who said fold pre, check pre and one even suggested shoving pre. I also do understand those who don't like this style and those who like to play more conservative and like the majority to play similar but depending on the night and often my mood, depends on my style.

Oh yes and I folded like a pussy because I was adamant I was up against both the better flush draw and a lot better made hand and I instantly regretted it. Villain 1 folded and showed Q10. Villain 2 never showed but claimed he was "massive" but said he was glad I folded during discussion and he also claimed he wasn't flushing. This p***ed me off even more that I went home shortly afterwards.
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09-22-2014 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
combo draws are much weaker in multiway pots when they're not to the nuts. V2 just put in half of his stack so he's not going anywhere. You're not deep enough to just flat. If you think V1will fold to a shove, then shove. If you think V1 will call, just let it go and fold.
+1
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