just sat down like 8 hands ago. game is typically passive. only read of note was villian raised pf after some limpers, cbet 1/4 pot on a rag board and folded to a raise.

both players of note are 100BB effective

3 limpers, i limp 89s CO, btn limps, blinds complete

Flop Q63 and I have a flush. SB checks, villian bets $8. folds to me i raise to $30. villian shoves for $160 more?

fwiw i knew the guy wasnt bluffing

bonus question: raise preflop?

I’d just fold.

don't
fold

I don't know how you can have effectively no reads and yet know for sure he's not bluffing. If he's not bluffing you only beat his 75 74 72 54 52 42 while he has all his T, J and K high flushes that he doesn't isolate preflop. So you'd have to fold.

However, you can't know he doesn't have a single big diamond with a 6 for a pair plus FD that he thinks is a reasonable semibluff against your QX or a random 2-pair that he considers worth shoving for value/protection.

And it's just kind of ok to flop a flush and get it in at 100bb deep. I'd call.

I'd play it conservative at a new table and not start trying to isolate limpers with SC from HJ, particularly after seeing someone else meet stiff resistance against their own iso-and-steal-flop attempt.

Snap call.

There's enough lol he does this with and I have a flush. If he has a bigger one sick cooler.

These hands you posted are just routine marginal spots with strong hands that suddenly appear less strong because you're facing shoves. There is not a crystal clear way of going about these spots for all players, so you just have to prioritize your own factors using, say, whatever info you have+stacks+where you are in your own range+texture+your BR management strategy.


98ss on Q63... the inner dialogue is, mostly readless, Dry flop though monotone, flopped the second strongest hand for my hand, not too deep, there is some pot here, I can afford to leverage ~100bbs for ~5bbs of EV, call.

JJ on 256s... mostly readless, low ranked flop w FD in a raised pot, flopped an OP on a dynamic board, somewhere in the upper region of flops for my hand, not too deep, yada yada… call.

I raise pre-flop because 1|2 limping ranges are stupidly wide and they will either fold or we will get to play a pot in position against wide ranges and dead money with a decent hand.

Flop I fold. Looking at stack depth for post-flop situations doesn't make any sense. The SPR is 30 and we saw a flop 7-ways. Justifying GII because we're "not deep" is the wrong way of thinking. This is where the saying "don't go broke in a limped pot" comes from.

We're not really so high in our range that this needs to be a call. Our hand looks like a flush and he's still 3-balling all-in for a pretty significant size.

If you are really a "NittyOldMan" and villain knows it, then you need to fold. Otherwise, I doubt Im folding this. I also wouldve raised preflop most of the time.

I was going with a call, but if we give him mid/bottom set, all flushes except AKss and A:spades: with 3, 6, and Q we have like 34% so I go with a fold.