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11-20-2018 , 08:25 PM

stlows

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 224

Hero (covers) is new to table, played 2 orbits. Got stacked on 378J8 with 33 vs JJ (didnt show). And stacked a guy some hands after with KJ on AQT3J.

V1 - EP (130$). Plays a lot of hands pre. Passive.

V2 - Button (275$). Didnt seen him played one hand yet. Asian and seems ok.

Anyway.

H open 5

EP to 12 after one limper and gets 6 callers_lol
Flop (80) 5

x, H bets 65, V1 allin for 120, folds to V2 who goes allin for 260 total.

Hero ?

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11-20-2018 , 09:01 PM

stlows

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 224

200 to win 720.
Needs 28%
I think V1 can be ignored since V2 is way stronger...
Against 68s, 99 and 77 I have 16%
If I add 97s I have 27%...

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11-20-2018 , 09:09 PM

MikeStarr

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You think their only hands are 68s/99/77/97s?

You didnt say what the stakes are but whether its 1/2 or 1/3, nobody will ever convince me that you can raise 55 in EP and make a profit.

Now that you did it, this is a very easy call.

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11-20-2018 , 09:15 PM

stlows

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

Its a 1-2, 250 max buy in.

What pair do you open by default in EP. I know it depends on the table, but by default.

I always open 22+ in EP, but I will try to open only 88+ in EP.

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11-20-2018 , 09:15 PM

Bighurt52235

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Originally Posted by stlows

200 to win 720.
Needs 28%
I think V1 can be ignored since V2 is way stronger...
Against 68s, 99 and 77 I have 16%
If I add 97s I have 27%...

Not to mention flush draws, TT-JJ, 98, all sorts of ****.

Never folding.

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11-20-2018 , 09:19 PM

MikeStarr

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Originally Posted by stlows

Its a 1-2, 250 max buy in.

What pair do you open by default in EP. I know it depends on the table, but by default.

I always open 22+ in EP, but I will try to open only 88+ in EP.

By default? Meaning just about always? TT+

There are lots of different winning styles of poker, but I honestly dont think its possible to open pps that low in EP profitably. Its possible that Im wrong of course.....but if you do open pps that low and you flop a set, and your money doesnt go in, dont ever raise 55 again.

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11-20-2018 , 11:37 PM

wj94

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Don't fold sets on the flop for 130bb ever and you'll probably do just fine, especially when you're the PFR and they dont' expect you to have a set.

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11-21-2018 , 12:23 AM

macktyson

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 688

You can add A6h A8h and A9h to your list as well as 1010 and JJ as well as some other randoms.

You raised EP with 55, hit a set and got action. Easy call.

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11-21-2018 , 12:25 AM

stlows

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 224

Alright thanks guys. Seems unanimous !

Hero calls, V1 had KK and V2 had 97 and we hold

/thread

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11-21-2018 , 04:08 AM

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hyperknit

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Snap call

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11-21-2018 , 04:56 AM

#11

winadil

adept

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Given the board texture there is lots of random draws in there
Pair+GS
Pair +flush draws
2 pairs
Overpairs
Flush draw + GS
Are all hands people could be shoving here
While I am not lovong the shoves I am sigh calling this pretty much always unless some supernit jams

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11-21-2018 , 06:41 AM

#12

Badreg2017

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With 6 people left to act I would strongly consider a checkraise here. As played call.

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11-21-2018 , 06:48 AM

#13

IRAZERIVER

adept

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Never folding a set here on such a wet board

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11-21-2018 , 06:56 PM

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krilleater

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 666

Snap calling. I expect to see random draws here very often, at least enough to make up for the cases where I'm set-over-set.

Also, V1 is apparently a terrible player. He doesn't 3-bet KK? Letting that flop go 6 ways was lighting money on fire for him.

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11-21-2018 , 08:37 PM

#15

feel wrath

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snapple

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