V is good player, agg and unpredictable...He has raised a lot PF and shown K9s, A10s...Told me I was too tight when I checked river with a set of 7's (3 clubs on the board)

V SB with around $800 me BB with $350
Limps round to V who raises to 25, I call with AK, 3 other callers
Flop $130 AQ9r
V checks, I bet $65 folds to V who happily calls
Turn is a brick, V leads with $80...
Hero?

I'm suspicious of the $80 bet, he usually bets way bigger so alarm bells are ringing...Don't see him as the type who would lead out with tpgk... Also, I have made a couple of misreads in similar situations this week... the guy is pretty aggressive and called down n lost a couple of pots, but he has more chips than anyone else...

1-2 btw

3 bet pre for effs sake unless you think he has a preflop bet sizing tell (that raise is huge for 1/2, were there 8 limpers here or something?)

Flop is fine

I'd rather bet the turn.

I did think about the 3 bet, but I was pretty sure he would 4 bet. Although he had raised pf a few times, this was the biggest pr raise I've seen him make, yes, many limpers, 4 callers AFTER the raise!!

how does he view you? are you 60+ years old, for example?
3betting against said villain is very standard. why are you afraid he would 4bet you?

40+... I think he views me as fairly tight.. I think I'm playing too 'face up' generally in this session, wait for a hand and wait for the right player to call it down with worst pair/kicker...But this guy isn't that player, I've 3 bet 2 times and won the pot in the last hour...2 out of 3 c bets have worked out for me as well (3 hours)... But he is very loose at times and obvious to me that he knows what he's doing and waiting to take the max from his lag image... I'm very sure he's calling if not 4 betting my 3 bet... I'm a newb (2 years, 6 mths thinking) he has 15 years +...

I don't mind the flat call pre, but I usually 3B here (especially on days when I have a fairly wide 3B range from SB and BB).

Definitely bet the flop. I probably bet a bit bigger, $75-90. I don't like your sizing but its not terrible.

Get into the habit of counting the pot as you go. Its important here.

So the pot going into the turn is $260, and Hero has $260 left. Villain leads for $80, which is a smallish bet for a value bet. IMO, he may have a vulnerable holding here and is afraid that Hero smacked the hell out of the flop -- since Hero called the big raise pre and bet the "scary" flop.

Pot to Hero is now $340. If Hero flats, he'll have just $180 left for the river, and the pot will be $420.

I'm happy with flatting the $80 and not folding regardless of what card falls on the river. If Villain is good, then he's probably b/f here with most of his range. So if you raise, he's just going to fold.

On the river: If Villain checks, I'm shoving. If Villain bets, I'm shoving. If Villain shoves, I'm calling.

he´s probably a superior poker player than you, making better decisions postflop, which should be even a bigger reason for you to bloat the pot with this hand, thus reducing his playability advantage when there isn´t much money behind. the fact that you actually DID 3bet somewhat frequently is also an even bigger reason to 3bet in this spot. if he reshoves light on you, or with a PP, fine, let´s flip, he can´t outplay you by flipping...
adding the FE which you have (you have a lot of FE imo in this spot by 3betting to 100) and the dead money this is s super profitable preflop spot.

strongly disagree, if he is any good, he should have a very very small b/folding range in this spot by taking this line (c/c flop, donk turn when eff stacks dictate an allin). he should almost always b/c in this spot.

Interesting.

What do you have for Villain's range here now that he's donked the turn?

What part of that range is he b/c with?

I agree, if this is his line, then Hero should raise here.

Meh... I like the 3B to $100 (though I like $80 better).

But I'm definitely not calling a 4B.

I'm not turning my hand into a bluff. But I'm not flipping for 275bb with AK.

I was aware of the pot... Funny though, cause his 'smallish' bet made me very nervous. at no point did i think he may have a vulnerable holding

1010+, AK, AQ, AJ, A10

he´s probably a superior poker player than you, making better decisions postflopYes, Painfully aware of this...Only got into one had with him before this, small one, cbet with mid pair and won like 30 or so...even then I think he was too busy stacking chips to really care...

1/2? Holy ballsack this is playing like 2/5. Bet this was a juiccccyyyy game. Turn is a brick, sometimes you gotta gamble it up with TPTK. Your shove for what 250ish on top of 80 the villian might fold or call with worse. I say go for it here and push it in.

Yeah, well i pushed it all in after his turn bet of 80... QQ for the set. Felt like I really miss played this, classic overplaying my top pair. I think I had a pretty good read on him for this hand and didn't go with it...
Thanks all for thoughts...

The first thing to realize is that the villain isn't a good player. A good player isn't giving you advice or chastising you bad play. I like the flat pf. He's raising a lot of hands and if the flop is A or K high, you've got a reasonable change to have him try to bluff you off your hand.

On the flop, I check behind. The villain loves trying to steal pots and the flop is fairly dry.

As played, he's offering you a great price to call, do so.

I don't feel any need to iso this SB open.

well, i do.

Villain is a bad player so we want to keep the pot small?

The check call flop as preflop raiser then lead the turn into a "tight" player who he says is playing too tight ...

When villain takes this action after noting your bet on the flop.. he has > 1 pair almost always! I would say his range is AK+ here given that you've been playing so face up.. I don't even know if he'd bet AK on the turn tbh

I mean.. it's a tough spot.. I think you can call turn and fold river because I highly doubt villain will try to bluff you off the river and I don't even know if he'd value town with AK on the river either

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